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Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

Should the school have banned the reading of the prayer by the student?

  • Yes

    Votes: 24 27.3%
  • No

    Votes: 60 68.2%
  • Undecided

    Votes: 4 4.5%

  • Total voters
    88
Many things I say are considered unacceptable by others, but I'm really not too concerned about it. I don't necessarily agree with your views, but I would not attempt to stifle anything you might want to express...

So, what was the point of the speech ?............................
 
Who cares? He said what he wanted to say. Good evening bonz...

Good evening. Well fine. But let's not foster the idea among Christians that saying Jesus loves them is any way, shape, or form "revolutionary"......................
 
Good evening. Well fine. But let's not foster the idea among Christians that saying Jesus loves them is any way, shape, or form "revolutionary"......................

Never implied that it was, only that we shouldn't expect all speech to conform to someone's set of rules...
 
How are 1st Amendment Rights overlooked for Christians compared to other religions? Surely you must have loads of examples.

Religion wasn't being attacked. Religion - your religion, my religion, their religion - has no place in a public school graduation address. Would you be as upset if most public school events were accompanied by Sikh prayer or a Hindu prayer or a Muslim prayer rather than a Christian prayer?

Evolution isn't a religion. Nor is atheism. More to point, I don't know of any high school graduation address where the speaker deviated from his/her prepared speech to recite an evolution or atheist prayer.

Would I personally like it if another religions prayer was given? No, but I wouldn't cry about it either. It is their right.
 
A religious message does not have "to inspire war" to be seen as harmful and disruptive in a society.

I know. It can inspire any number of negative things, it doesn't have to be war.

Forgivness is not one of those negative or harmful things, however, which was my point.
 
What error was made? Is free speech now frowned upon depending on where it is located?
"Free speech" isn't some pass to say whatever you want, whenever you want, wherever you want. You can't stand on a street corner shouting to the world using profane language, for example. Fire! in a theater is generally outlawed. Any owner of private property can limit your speech on their property, though the only reasonable "punishment" there is being expelled from the property. So, yes, free speech has always been "frowned upon" depending on where it is located.
 
"Free speech" isn't some pass to say whatever you want, whenever you want, wherever you want. You can't stand on a street corner shouting to the world using profane language, for example. Fire! in a theater is generally outlawed. Any owner of private property can limit your speech on their property, though the only reasonable "punishment" there is being expelled from the property. So, yes, free speech has always been "frowned upon" depending on where it is located.

After you have read the full exchange and get it into some context, get back to me. Until then, just ignore my posts...
 
After you have read the full exchange and get it into some context, get back to me. Until then, just ignore my posts...
I just finished reading to this post and it really doesn't change my comment any.
 
Then just ignore my posts as you obviously lack comprehension skills...
One could often say the same about you, yet I've never known that to stop you from posting.


There are plenty of places in this country where you can get up on a soapbox and say whatever you want. There's no reason to corner someone to make them listen to you.
 
The Christian message, which goes far beyond the Lord's Prayer.....
....was not recited at this event, is outside the scope of this event, and is therefore completely irrelevant.
 
That's something to be proud of.:cool:

Yes, you've already made it clear that you think he's some kind of Christian super hero. Breaking rules and bending the law! :lamo
 
Yes, you've already made it clear that you think he's some kind of Christian super hero. Breaking rules and bending the law! :lamo

I wouldn't care if his speech were on behalf of Satan. I'm an adherent of no religion. I just like the fact that he broke the rules and spoke his mind.:cool:
 
What error did he make?

From my understanding of the situation, the school district had a policy in place that the student agreed to, then knowingly violated. Either he made an error in judgement in violating the order he agreed to, or he was just a complete prick.

Your choice.
 
You're right. He willfully disobeyed the rule.

You have to remember, to these people, integrity and honesty is a negative quality. :roll:
 
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