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Thread: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    ernst, we're not discussing inflammatory speech. The discussion concerns a student's belief that his right to free expression of religion trumps the political correctness of some thinking that it equates to a governmental "establishment" of religion. You're usually more of a defender of the country's founding, but if we all thought we should blindly acquiesce to governmental control, we would be little more than a country of robots...

    So, you see his actions as revolutionary ? That's rich.....................

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    So, you see his actions as revolutionary ? That's rich.....................
    No da, but I do find your posts irrelevant per usual...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    ernst, we're not discussing inflammatory speech. The discussion concerns a student's belief that his right to free expression of religion trumps the political correctness of some thinking that it equates to a governmental "establishment" of religion. You're usually more of a defender of the country's founding, but if we all thought we should blindly acquiesce to governmental control, we would be little more than a country of robots...
    SPEECH YOU DISAGREE WITH IS.............. FREE SPEECH......

    i am for rights of property in the strongest degree, however when your on public property speech is not so free, when others and you have to convene in certain places to do things........speech can be limited, as to protect everyone.

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    SPEECH YOU DISAGREE WITH IS.............. FREE SPEECH......

    i am for rights of property in the strongest degree, however when your on public property speech is not so free, when others and you have to convene in certain places to do things........speech can be limited, as to protect everyone.
    You're trying to make a distinction that does not exist under our Constitution. Read the first once more and show me where it is restricted to private property...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    If I were standing in line for a driver's license, there is nothing stopping me from reciting the Lord's Prayer or stating I hate religion. Free speech is not restricted to one's property...
    thats true.......but can you start to pray loudly in line, and ask others to pray with you aloud, can you repeatedly make nasty remarks to me, demean me, and make racial remarks.....no you will get throw out.

    when your not on your property, ...your not in charge to do anything as you will.

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    You're trying to make a distinction that does not exist under our Constitution. Read the first once more and show me where it is restricted to private property...
    i have stated before, when your off your property, you cant do just anything you want to even though it public, there are limits, and they are there for the protection of the people.

    you know when people come together the problem of fights can arise, and limits on own speech, and doing certain things helps, to prevent problems that would arise if those limits did not exist.

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    As far as I'm concerned, yes, and if you don't like what is being spoken, feel free to exit...
    All the chest thumping aside, Paul, if I am there as a parent with my family and friends to see my child graduate I don't want to be forced to make that kind of decision. I would respect your family and your children and I wouldn't support anyone forcing that kind of situation on you or your family either.










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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    thats true.......but can you start to pray loudly in line, and ask others to pray with you aloud, can you repeatedly make nasty remarks to me, demean me, and make racial remarks.....no you will get throw out.

    when your not on your property, ...your not in charge to do anything as you will.
    Yes, I could pray in line, and asking others to do so as well is not out of bounds unless some threat is implied should they choose not to agree. Making "nasty remarks to me, demean me, and make racial remarks" would be considered intimidation. What this student did does not equate to any of these...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    I am for gay marriage because it ticks off Jesus freaks and social conservatives. Gays are also good voters because the vote for my side so I fight next to them.

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    No da, but I do find your posts irrelevant per usual...
    That was unkind..................

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    All the chest thumping aside, Paul, if I am there as a parent with my family and friends to see my child graduate I don't want to be forced to make that kind of decision. I would respect your family and your children and I wouldn't support anyone forcing that kind of situation on you or your family either.
    I appreciate your reasoned response, but the country was founded on some of these basic principles, and it seems that over the last 40-50 years we are trying to do everything to respect the rights of those that might be offended at the expense of why the country was founded...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
    Quote Originally Posted by James D Hill View Post
    I am for gay marriage because it ticks off Jesus freaks and social conservatives. Gays are also good voters because the vote for my side so I fight next to them.

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