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Thread: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    What I did with regard to the discipline of my children was not subject to Constitutional review, and once more, these are not children...
    Yes they are children. Most of them are 17 years old. Legally still a child.

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    They most certainly are children until they are 18. That is when they gain their full rights and status as adults.
    What age do you think the majority of HS graduates are?
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    They most certainly are children until they are 18. That is when they gain their full rights and status as adults.
    The majority of people are eighteen when they graduate high school.

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    I'm sorry, but just because some may be offended is not a good enough reason to restrict someone's rights as expressed in the Constitution...

    Perhaps if we kept in mind the actual impact of said speech we would have a clearer perspective: In this particular case, the student reciting a prayer would have zero impact, just like "wishing upon a star"......................So there appears to be little to justify banning said action, other than the highly credible but legally unenforceable fact that it's just really annoying....................

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    What I did with regard to the discipline of my children was not subject to Constitutional review
    But you were violating their rights!

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Yes they are children. Most of them are 17 years old. Legally still a child.
    I graduated at 16, but that was an exception, not the rule. Most are 18 or 19...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    The thing is, it is not exclusive to anyone because the rules would apply to EVERY religious denomination. Oh, and the state owns public property.
    and this State, is it not a government of, by, and for the People, garnering its authority by their consent? Or is this an entity foreign to its citizens, independent from them?

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    But you were violating their rights!
    My children had no rights until they were specifically granted (by me)...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Because you might find it offensive, does that mean another person's freedom of speech and religious expression needs to be restricted?

    example of what i mean:

    you and i standing on the side of a road, and i start to smoke in front of you, do you have a right to make me put it out?..........no, becuase you are not bound to stand next to me, you are free to move away from me go somewhere else.

    but if you and i are standing in a public building, and we both have to use the public building, this forces us to come together so our individual business can be transacted, under this situation, you dont have rights to do as you will, becuase other people are involved in that close nit environment.

    this means you cant just say anything you want to, you cant have a firearm, hold a prayer service there, you cannot be immune from searches, if your suspected of a crime...so your rights are limited.

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    The majority of people are eighteen when they graduate high school.
    Some are 18. The majority would still be 17 since graduation occurs in May which is only 5 months into the new year, unless they stayed back. And even so, they are still obliged to follow school rules.

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