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Thread: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    But there is no precedent binding on all jurisdictions. That was the point of the original link, as I read it.
    If a school is going to allow religious content above and beyond what is normally allowed (such as private prayer gatherings for students with like-minded beliefs, etc.), then they MUST have a disclaimer, otherwise it could be interpreted that this is also what the school believes and THAT would be the school endorsing religion.

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Typical tactic for someone with nothing left to say. Start citing quotes.
    No. We're not a country where we're supposed to stifle ourselves.
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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    If a school is going to allow religious content above and beyond what is normally allowed (such as private prayer gatherings for students with like-minded beliefs, etc.), then they MUST have a disclaimer, otherwise it could be interpreted that this is also what the school believes and THAT would be the school endorsing religion.
    And they can decline to oppose religious expression in a valedictorian's speech.
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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    No. We're not a country where we're supposed to stifle ourselves.
    That's not the case at school or work.

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    And they can decline to oppose religious expression in a valedictorian's speech.
    Not without a disclaimer. Are you getting it yet?

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    That's not the case at school or work.
    Depends on the school and the work.
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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Not without a disclaimer. Are you getting it yet?
    I've seen nothing in any of the legal claims that would require a disclaimer.
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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    I've seen nothing in any of the legal claims that would require a disclaimer.
    Well then you didn't read the links.

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Depends on the school and the work.
    Are you going to continue on with this intellectual dishonesty that is on full display here, or are you going to concede that schools do have a right to monitor and limit what is said in student speeches at school sponsored events where the school is liable for statements made?

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Lol! Just because some of crowd cheered does in no way mean no one was offended. It's in the news. Must have bothered somebody somewhere. Stop making me LOL.
    And "someone being offended" is not the gold standard for restricting free speech. You have a right to speak, you do not have a right to not be offended.

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