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Thread: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    . . . in some jurisdictions.
    Because that is what THOSE jurisdictions decided upon.

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Not if you can't stifle yourself during a relatively short graduation speech.
    ". . . o'er the land of the free, and the home of the brave."
    "It's always reassuring to find you've made the right enemies." -- William J. Donovan

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Because that is what THOSE jurisdictions decided upon.
    But not others, so the question remains unresolved.
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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I wonder how people would feel if the kid wanted to recite the Devil's Prayer? Maybe he's a satanist?
    Would the kid use blood? That might be interesting.

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    But not others, so the question remains unresolved.
    No it doesn't. The question has been answered. Individual school districts do have a right to limit and/or restrict a student's free speech while at school or school-sponsored events. If the school board thinks that religious content is acceptable, then they can allow it with a disclaimer that it does not represent the school's position. I hope I've cleared up your confusion. You welcome in advance.

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I thought the point we were arguing was whether or not it is appropriate? Of course, the only punishment they could dole out would be to hold his diploma, and I don't think anyone wants that. Some people just want stubborn misconceived people who don't understand the principal behind separation of church and state to get it through their thick skulls that if you want to pray then go to church and keep it out of school. Schools are for learning, and NOT about religion. There are already private religious schools for those of you who want to include your religious beliefs in your child's education. There is a lot of diversity in our schools now, and not ALL students are Christian or believe in God or Jesus or Allah or whatever. These kinds of things just make things more complicated for the school and everyone else involved. It could all be simply avoided by NOT DOING IT. I don't think that's asking a lot either.
    Separation of church and state. Btw, no such thing is found in the constitution.

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Would the kid use blood? That might be interesting.
    Maybe he could sacrifice a couple of goats or something too.

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Separation of church and state. Btw, no such thing is found in the constitution.
    You'll have to familiarize yourself with the thread. There are links. One in particular on post #691 but others too.

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    ". . . o'er the land of the free, and the home of the brave."
    Typical tactic for someone with nothing left to say. Start citing quotes.

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    No it doesn't. The question has been answered. Individual school districts do have a right to limit and/or restrict a student's free speech while at school or school-sponsored events. If the school board thinks that religious content is acceptable, then they can allow it with a disclaimer that it does not represent the school's position. I hope I've cleared up your confusion. You welcome in advance.
    But there is no precedent binding on all jurisdictions. That was the point of the original link, as I read it.
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