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Thread: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    You don't get voted as veledictorian. The highest grades get you that honor.
    Well, obviously I was never a valedictorian. I was just a lowly average student.

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    not to mention if one has to ask why the federal government and a school is different they instantly show they simply are not educated on this supbject.

    maybe quoting SCOTUS for him will just be easier.
    You do know that the case you just quoted wouldn't fit the scenario we are discussing correct?
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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Well, obviously I was never a valedictorian. I was just a lowly average student.
    haha!
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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Well, obviously I was never a valedictorian. I was just a lowly average student.
    you know whats sad

    a many of the local HS around here have multiple valedictorians.

    some have 6!

    boy and girl Highest honers valedictorians
    boy and girl High honors valedictorians
    boy and girl honor valedictorians

    IMO this is extremely stupid

    in my day there was ONE valedictorian. Id be ok with two, boy girl but thats it.
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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    You do know that the case you just quoted wouldn't fit the scenario we are discussing correct?
    It might be about a different controversy, but it still would count as case law, I believe. Children in school CAN be limited when it comes to free speech is the bottom line.

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    you know whats sad

    a many of the local HS around here have multiple valedictorians.

    some have 6!

    boy and girl Highest honers valedictorians
    boy and girl High honors valedictorians
    boy and girl honor valedictorians

    IMO this is extremely stupid

    in my day there was ONE valedictorian. Id be ok with two, boy girl but thats it.
    It is stupid. Also, highest honors, high honors and honors. Just stick to highest honors. Everyone else is in the realm of average.

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    You do know that the case you just quoted wouldn't fit the scenario we are discussing correct?
    wrong again but please give me your OPINION why you believe that

    because the fact is it fits perfectly because it answers your question why its different (school/government) and it also address the fact that the school COULD sensor things. THIS was the discussion we were having, but i cant wait to see what you make up and how you try to say we were talking about something else lol
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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    It might be about a different controversy, but it still would count as case law, I believe. Children in school CAN be limited when it comes to free speech is the bottom line.
    My point was the ruling cited was in reference and limited to a school curriculum which a graduation speech is not.
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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    wrong again but please give me your OPINION why you believe that

    because the fact is it fits perfectly because it answers your question why its different (school/government) and it also address the fact that the school COULD sensor things. THIS was the discussion we were having, but i cant wait to see what you make up and how you try to say we were talking about something else lol
    It was limited to pedagogical related censorship. That does not cover a graduation speech.
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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    It is stupid. Also, highest honors, high honors and honors. Just stick to highest honors. Everyone else is in the realm of average.
    its a shame and insulting in my opinion

    why? because there could be 100 kids that did better than the high honors valedictorian and they get ZERO recognition. So dumb.

    Some schools also dropped their honor role to 3.0 and their grade system.

    A 91-100
    B 80-90
    C 70-79
    D 60-69

    along with that they give letter grades for gym, band etc instead of O S U and those letter grades count against your GPA.

    its pathetic
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