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Thread: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Free bird is an excellent song for a lap dance...
    It's a long one anyway!

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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    It's a long one anyway!
    Someone got the meaning...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    never, when there's not honest interesting conversation and debate going on my second favorite thing to do here is entertaining myself with dishonest posts and exposing lies.

    as long as you keep lying and denying the facts ill keep posting them, theres nothing funnier than dishonest posts that are made over and over again to save face.

    Scotus proves me right and supports my claim 100% as already proven with links

    my statement was 100% true
    facts and the thread history prove you wrong again.
    like i said if you disagree by all means PLEASE PLEASE provide and factual proof to the contrary
    You lost.
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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    It's the valedictorian's message, whatever that happens to be.
    I don't want to sound cruel, but I often get the impression that Conservatives in general, and Southern Conservatives in particular, live in this daydream world configured solely by the concepts they learned in elementary level Sunday school.............................

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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    I don't want to sound cruel, but I often get the impression the Conservatives in general, and Southern Conservatives in particular, live in this daydream world configured solely by the concepts they learned in elementary level Sunday school.............................
    Why change now?
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    I don't want to sound cruel, but I often get the impression the Conservatives in general, and Southern Conservatives in particular, live in this daydream world configured solely by the concepts they learned in elementary level Sunday school.............................
    You're not cruel, you're just prejudiced.
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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Free bird is an excellent song for a lap dance...
    Too much information..................

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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    I don't want to sound cruel, but I often get the impression that Conservatives in general, and Southern Conservatives in particular, live in this daydream world configured solely by the concepts they learned in elementary level Sunday school.............................
    We got a saying in these parts. Why broke what ain't fixed?

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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    You're not cruel, you're just prejudiced.
    I'm no saint....................

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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    You lost.
    Scotus proves me right and supports my claim 100% as already proven with links

    my statement was 100% true
    "schools have the right to censor, limit and not allow a speech at a school function"

    Main article: Bethel School District v. Fraser

    In Fraser, a high school student was disciplined following his speech to a school assembly at which he nominated a fellow student for a student elective office. The speech contained sexual innuendos, but not obscenity. The Supreme Court found that school officials could discipline the student. In doing so, it recognized that "[t]he process of educating our youth for citizenship in public schools is not confined to books, the curriculum, and the civics class; schools must teach by example the shared values of a civilized social order." Recognizing that one of the important purposes of public education is to inculcate the habits and manners of civility as valued conducive both to happiness and to the practice of self-government, the Supreme Court emphasized that: "Consciously or otherwise, teachers--and indeed the older students--demonstrate the appropriate form of civil discourse and political expression by their conduct and deportment in and out of class." [6] Under the Fraser standard, school officials look not merely to the reasonable risk of disruption—the Tinker standard—but would also balance the freedom of a student's speech rights against the school's interest in teaching students the boundaries of socially appropriate behavior. Schools have discretion to curtail not only obscene speech, but speech that is vulgar, lewd, indecent or plainly offensive.
    Main article: Hazelwood School District v. Kuhlmeier

    The Hazelwood School District case applies the principles set forth in Fraser to curricular matters. In Hazelwood, the Supreme Court upheld a school's decision to censor certain articles in the school newspaper which was produced as part of the school's journalism curriculum. Echoing Fraser, the Supreme Court observed that "[a] school need not tolerate student speech that is inconsistent with 'its basic educational mission' ... even though the government could not censor similar speech outside the school." School authorities and educators do not offend the First Amendment by exercising editorial control over the style and content of student speech in school-sponsored expressive activities so long as their actions are reasonably related to legitimate pedagogical concerns.[7]
    facts and the thread history prove you wrong again.

    tell me that cool line about losing again?
    sorry you lost, lol my statement was 100% true

    like i said if you disagree by all means PLEASE PLEASE provide and factual proof to the contrary
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