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Thread: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    I think one needs to be very careful about chanting "freedom of speech".

    I personally don't have a problem with the kid reciting a religious passage. It's his time. He can use it as he wishes.

    However, suppose he started reciting something that was more connected with a harsher brand of Islam? Still religious, but more controversial?

    Suppose he went FLDS and into promoting polygamy?
    Suppose he was a devout follower of Fred Phelps and the Westboro Baptists?

    There are guidelines set forward for a reason. A school, and a graduation from said school is nowhere near a platform for freedom of speech.

    If the school has regulations about what can be said and what can't, and that speeches must be pre-approved for large ceremonies, the kid must follow these rules.
    You honestly believe that this controversy would even exist if it had been a Muslim speaking of Allah? No way.
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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    It was not offensive speech. If anyone thinks so apparently they are a little too sensitive and should practice the "tolerance" they so desperately want Christians to follow. In other words, Athiests need to get over themselves. Just listen to the speak, nod your head and move on if you don't like it. No one is forcing you to believe or agree to it.
    It doesn't matter, those people, no matter how much or little it affected them have the right not to listen to that, and he violated it. It doesn't matter if it was simply a prayer or not. We are missing the point though. The kid deliberately went against what his approved speech was, knowing the consequences. Why should anybody defend him? And you are using the first amendment to defend him, well I am using against him, and the Supreme Court is siding with the majority over one kid.
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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    It doesn't matter, those people, no matter how much or little it affected them have the right not to listen to that, and he violated it. It doesn't matter if it was simply a prayer or not. We are missing the point though. The kid deliberately went against what his approved speech was, knowing the consequences. Why should anybody defend him? And you are using the first amendment to defend him, well I am using against him, and the Supreme Court is siding with the majority over one kid.
    Nowhere is there a right to not hear something.
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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    It doesn't matter, those people, no matter how much or little it affected them have the right not to listen to that, and he violated it. It doesn't matter if it was simply a prayer or not. We are missing the point though. The kid deliberately went against what his approved speech was, knowing the consequences. Why should anybody defend him? And you are using the first amendment to defend him, well I am using against him, and the Supreme Court is siding with the majority over one kid.
    You're right, they should cut his ****ing tongue out, the little criminal.

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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Liberty High valedictorian's speech causes stir - FOX Carolina 21

    Do you think the school was right to ban this in the first place? Why or why not?
    Yes....I don't think anybody at a school function in front of a mic should be leading any prayer....

    At the same time...good for that young girl. I like it when youngsters buck the system for what they believe.
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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Nowhere is there a right to not hear something.
    again you have already been proven wrong, if there is force of the matter you do have a right to be free of it.

    Why do you deny facts?
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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    Yes....I don't think anybody at a school function in front of a mic should be leading any prayer....

    At the same time...good for that young girl. I like it when youngsters buck the system for what they believe.
    The Supreme Court opens with prayer, Presidential Functions include prayer, yet someone at a school function shouldn't be able to pray?
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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    again you have already been proven wrong, if there is force of the matter you do have a right to be free of it.

    Why do you deny facts?
    I deny that anyone was forced. Nobody had to stay and listen. They could leave and come back when he was done.
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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    If schools are to held accountable for everything valedictorians say in their graduation speeches there wouldn't be a school left open. This is just a silly overeaction.

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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Nowhere is there a right to not hear something.
    Ok, be ignorant, ignore actual court rulings i quote and just continue to think that your religion is the only one out there, and don't think how the forcing of listening to anothers religion can affect one. whatever i have no time for ignorance. Continue to think this kid has been wronged even though not only did he violate the rights established through court cases on the matter, but he defied his school at the same time. You are right the poor kid is being disciplined for NO reason.
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