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Thread: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    They didn't.
    Any restriction of speech relating to religious expression would...
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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    Might we summarize this earth shattering event as " Christians gittin' all feisty and all, y'all" ?...................
    I think of it as a free speech teachable moment.
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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Lucky you! Good evening, Polgara.
    Good evening, Jack

    Reminds me of a true story I read a while back where a valedictorian wanted to include God in his speech, so he got the class together and stated that he would sneeze during his speech...and they would respond as a class "God bless you!" Went off without a hitch!

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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    And still others would find offensive the most benign statements by valedictorians or commencement speaker. You have no right to guard against being offended. In fact, in most cases you have a right to speak that which you know will offend some of the people listening.
    This is about the school setting guidelines and rules regarding speeches made at school sponsored events, not about me being offended. I'm not offended by the prayer at all, but I can understand how others might not want to be subjected to an unexpected sermon, and I can understand how the school wants to keep things like this from being a thorn in their sides.

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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    SOME people would consider a Christian prayer to be offensive. That is something you need to realize.
    I don't like seeing the black kids walking around with their *sses hanging out of their pants. Oh well. I accept the fact that it won't do any more harm than annoying me. The same goes for someone hearing a prayer when they don't believe in the religion of it. If the valedictorian is a Muslim they can say "Allah Akbar" for all I care, they earned it.
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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Damn, I'm finding my self in agreement with some of your thoughts this evening...
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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    who said they give up their 1st amendment rights? not me and please notice the part where it refers to all the things that CAN be censored, thanks
    we arent talkign about DISCRIMINATION against speech allowing one and not allowing another

    my statements is in fact true, schools can in fact censor, limit or ban speech
    you assume i meant any and all speech, i did not
    As they say in Congress, I note that you have clarified and extended your remarks. Fair enough, but the valedictorian's speech was clearly in the protected category.
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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    It's not a member situation. This is a state-run school, making a rule about free speech and limiting it. That is a violation of the Constitution.
    We do NOT have unlimited freedom of speech.
    To cite the Constitution when they are so vague about things , makes no sense...
    What we do need is respect and civility, two more things not in the Constitution...

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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Good evening, Jack

    Reminds me of a true story I read a while back where a valedictorian wanted to include God in his speech, so he got the class together and stated that he would sneeze during his speech...and they would respond as a class "God bless you!" Went off without a hitch!
    Clever lad!
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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post

    my statements is in fact true, schools can in fact censor, limit or ban speech
    while i am agreeing with you here, will you please share as to why speech or actions can be banned.

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