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Thread: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Liberty High valedictorian's speech causes stir - FOX Carolina 21

    Do you think the school was right to ban this in the first place? Why or why not?
    Put me in the "who ****ing cares" camp. Don't we have more important things to worry about than this?

    Students leading a prayer in front of a student assembly at a school function is a grey area between separation of church and state and freedom of speech. I honestly don't know whether it's right or wrong or what. And I don't really care, because it doesn't really matter. If the school wants to ban it, that's okay. If the school wants to allow it, I'm fine with that. How about we all grow up a little and quit being such whiners about the religion crap. Just because a school doesn't want a kid to say a prayer at graduation doesn't mean they're oppressing your religion or anything, they're just covering their asses. And just because someone does say a prayer at a school function once doesn't mean you need to lose your **** and start wailing about how America is becoming a theocracy.
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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Good evening pg. I haven't seen you around here lately, been traveling the world?
    Only part of the world, AP. I'm beginning to think it's the worst part.

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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    It's a school sponsored event.
    So is a football game. Big deal.
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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Well, this is simply your opinion and nothing more. The fact is the speech was pre-approved and then the boy changed the speech without getting permission and included the Lord's Prayer in his speech.
    Yup, and there's absolutely nothing the school, or the law, or anyone but his parents can do about it. It was his speech to make, he earned that with diligence and hard work.

    Btw, you all do know that schools aren't compelled by law, by statute to have a graduation ceremony. It's not part of the curricula nor is it in any state or federal requirement.

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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Only part of the world, AP. I'm beginning to think it's the worst part.
    Ah, you must have gone to New England...

    Or the "left" coast...
    Last edited by AlabamaPaul; 06-06-13 at 09:34 PM. Reason: Clarification...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    This may be the more basic question to consider, "Why should a valedictorian's commencement speech require approval?"
    Are you kidding me? I guess you were never a teenager before.

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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Ah, you must have gone to New England...
    Yeah, I was looking for Bonz...never did find him!

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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Yup, and there's absolutely nothing the school, or the law, or anyone but his parents can do about it. It was his speech to make, he earned that with diligence and hard work.

    Btw, you all do know that schools aren't compelled by law, by statute to have a graduation ceremony. It's not part of the curricula nor is it in any state or federal requirement.
    So? How would you feel about a kid getting up there and cursing? And the schools do have control, responsibility and liability of all school sponsored events.

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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Are you kidding me? I guess you were never a teenager before.
    I was and a valedictorian as well. My speech required no approval. That was 1971...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Well, this is simply your opinion and nothing more. The fact is the speech was pre-approved and then the boy changed the speech without getting permission and included the Lord's Prayer in his speech.
    Jesus Christ! Didn't your daddy teach you the little "sticks and stones" saying?
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