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Thread: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Who the hell decided religion should be kept out of schools?
    We did when we lost all capability of live and let live. Once people start getting into other people's business, their business becomes public concern. If we'd stop bitching about every little damned thing and let people go on so long as they didn't infringe upon the rights of others, we wouldn't have this problem.
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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    "Lying" , per se, is considered unChristian, but lying to further Christian sedition against Life is a totally sanctioned tactic...................
    Hmmm. I was thinking of the theological conundrum of lying to avoid an immoral outcome or infliction of harm. Troubling since Augustine.
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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    The Constitution implicitly guarantees freedom of religion, not freedom from religion...
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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    We did when we lost all capability of live and let live. Once people start getting into other people's business, their business becomes public concern. If we'd stop bitching about every little damned thing and let people go on so long as they didn't infringe upon the rights of others, we wouldn't have this problem.
    Exactly. People should not shove their religious beliefs and prayers down the throats of other people who are there to see a graduation and not a sermon.

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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by TwEnTY-SiX View Post
    In Frisby v. Schultz, the Supreme Court decided that "the First Amendment permits the government to prohibit offensive speech as intrusive when the 'captive' audience cannot avoid the objectionable speech."
    http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/95-815.pdf
    How is that ruling in line with the first amendment.

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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    A few rare examples. There's a reason why this is considered "news." It is because it doesn't generally happen.
    Happens with all the schools in the district I attended and the districts I've taught in. Even little Georgetown, where you can stand on one town boundry line and spit, hitting the opposite line. The students there had a combined graduation ceremony with the town over, held at the grange.

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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Who the hell decided religion should be kept out of schools?
    An interesting question................As interesting as " What, if anything, would one teach in a Christian madrassah ? " ...........Fred Flintstone invented the "saddle" ?.............................

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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Exactly. People should not shove their religious beliefs and prayers down the throats of other people who are there to see a graduation and not a sermon.
    Do any of the people there actually want to listen to anyone speak, really?

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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    No, they don't just get to say whatever they want. Their speeches are supposed to be pre-approved. This kid changed his speech without prior approval. Just like the little girl who got into trouble for saying "hell" in her speech. People have to learn to follow rules and to quit whining when they WILLFULLY break them.
    I'm not saying "break rules". I'm saying "approve the kid's speech as long as it's reasonable." Any moron offended by the mentioning of God or prayer is as weak-minded as they come. Plug your ears and hum if it saves your fragile little brain.
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