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Thread: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    I didn't notice him whining. In fact the school board stated there would be no action taken. Do you really want a nation in which everyone follows "the rules" as dictated?
    In school? Yes. What, do you want school to be like a circus with the kids in control?

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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Are valedictorian's free to say whatever they want? If so, he had a right to get religious.

    If the speeches are routinely reviewed and censored by school authorities, then he shouldn't have been allowed to do it and can be sanctioned for doing it without permission.

    Whatever the case, it was rude of him to impose his religion on a general audience.

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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    I never said that. I'm just at a loss why people are defending him. there is a time and a place for everything, and in a school filled with people from several different backgrounds and religions, it is not the time to break out in prayer. Those people did not ask for it yet they were subjected to it. I'm not saying the kid needs to be thrown in jail. I'm just saying that whatever punishment the school board gives is fair. There shouldn't be a controversy over freedom of speech because there are other freedoms in violation too. There isn't anyhting major, i'm just pointing out here that this kid isn't the victim like it is being made out he is.
    I'm at a loss for why you act like every non-Christian has a fragile little mind that will be destroyed if prayer is heard.
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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    It has nothing to do with beliefs. It has to do with not having children unduly influenced by OTHER people's religious beliefs. Leave it OUT of the classroom and school functions. Simple really.
    Children "unduly" influenced by a valedictorian's speech have no beliefs worth mentioning in the first place. Better for them to mix it up a little in the marketplace of ideas.
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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Why not? The student has free speech just like everyone else. They had as much of a RIGHT to say what they said as a racist has to say what they say. You're confusing what you WISH they'd say with what they have a RIGHT to say.
    And you are confusing rights with privileges. Of course he has a right to speak his mind just about anywhere else. But he was not in a classroom, on the street, etc. He was given the privileged position of giving a speech to his graduating class. No one else had that opportunity which makes it a privilege.
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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    One for the good guys!!!!
    "God Bless Our Troops in Harms Way."

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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    In school? Yes. What, do you want school to be like a circus with the kids in control?
    They had graduated! It was a ceremony, not some in school function. These "children" are our future leaders, gawd help us we have more like him...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Don't take it from me (besides, I'm agnostic), but 2,000 years of Christian theology produces another answer.
    "Lying" , per se, is considered unChristian, but lying to further Christian sedition against Life is a totally sanctioned tactic...................

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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    And you are confusing rights with privileges. Of course he has a right to speak his mind just about anywhere else. But he was not in a classroom, on the street, etc. He was given the privileged position of giving a speech to his graduating class. No one else had that opportunity which makes it a privilege.

    He earned position or right.
    "God Bless Our Troops in Harms Way."

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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Children "unduly" influenced by a valedictorian's speech have no beliefs worth mentioning in the first place. Better for them to mix it up a little in the marketplace of ideas.
    Yeah, well that's not your decision to make. I wouldn't want radical Islam being preached in schools either. It is a smart idea to keep religion out of public school.

    If you want your children exposed to religion in school, then send them to the private religious school of your choice.

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