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Thread: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by shlunka View Post
    Separation from church and state, the valedictorian is in the wrong. Simple as that.
    No he isn't, YOU ARE. You obviously know nothing whatsoever about the "separation" or the 1st Amendment. First off, he's not the church, he's a student and a citizen. That means he gets to say what he wants.
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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Just leave the praying and the curse words OUT of speeches and there won't be a problem. I think people just do it for attention anyway. The valedictorian MUST be intelligent enough to realize that he was going to face some heat.
    The Constitution implicitly guarantees freedom of religion, not freedom from religion...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Sure its an issue. The kid lied. You can't claim to be a Christian and lie in the same breath...and yes...I am a Christian...but I am not "Christian".
    What does that mean? (what I bolded)

    You can claim to be Christian and lie, Christians are humans too they're going to lie.
    I believe half of the things I say and say half of the things I believe.

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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Sure its an issue. The kid lied. You can't claim to be a Christian and lie in the same breath...and yes...I am a Christian...but I am not "Christian".
    Saying you're a Christian doesn't make it so.
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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    No he isn't, YOU ARE. You obviously know nothing whatsoever about the "separation" or the 1st Amendment. First off, he's not the church, he's a student and a citizen. That means he gets to say what he wants.
    Yeah well, Thomas Jefferson NEVER wore sunglasses.
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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    No he isn't, YOU ARE. You obviously know nothing whatsoever about the "separation" or the 1st Amendment. First off, he's not the church, he's a student and a citizen. That means he gets to say what he wants.
    I disagree based on the captive audience clause.

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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Sure its an issue. The kid lied. You can't claim to be a Christian and lie in the same breath...and yes...I am a Christian...but I am not "Christian".
    This has NOTHING to do with the actual point of this debate.
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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    The Constitution implicitly guarantees freedom of religion, not freedom from religion...
    See post #217.

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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    In case you haven't noticed yet, I'm not really that sensitive...
    Too much info..................

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