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Thread: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Liberty High valedictorian's speech causes stir - FOX Carolina 21

    Do you think the school was right to ban this in the first place? Why or why not?
    The problem that I have with fools like this is that they demonstrate that they really do not understand values. Is lying a "Christian Value"? I would say not. This kid lied when he turned in his speech knowing full well that he was never going to give that speech. Lying "in the name of God" is still lying.


    Remember what Christ himself said about hypocrites like this kid:
    Matthew 6:5-6 (New King James Version)

    5 "And when you pray, you shall not be like the hypocrites. For they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the corners of the streets, that they may be seen by men. Assuredly, I say to you, they have their reward. 6 But you, when you pray, go into your room, and when you have shut your door, pray to your Father who is in the secret place; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you openly.
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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    The problem that I have with fools like this is that they demonstrate that they really do not understand values. Is lying a "Christian Value"? I would say not. This kid lied when he turned in his speech knowing full well that he was never going to give that speech. Lying "in the name of God" is still lying.
    So what? Who cares? That prayer didn't hurt anyone. The real hypocrisy isn't the lies of some dumb High School kid, but those screaming here that it should be legal but who wouldn't allow the opposite (someone perhaps denigrating gods) to occur in the same event.

    Kids lie all the time. Well so do politicians.
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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    The problem that I have with fools like this is that they demonstrate that they really do not understand values. Is lying a "Christian Value"? I would say not. This kid lied when he turned in his speech knowing full well that he was never going to give that speech. Lying "in the name of God" is still lying.


    Remember what Christ himself said about hypocrites like this kid:
    Matthew 6:5-6 (New King James Version)

    5 "And when you pray, you shall not be like the hypocrites. For they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the corners of the streets, that they may be seen by men. Assuredly, I say to you, they have their reward. 6 But you, when you pray, go into your room, and when you have shut your door, pray to your Father who is in the secret place; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you openly.
    You accuse the person of lying without a shred of evidence. Did you ever consider that it was a decision that came at the moment he stood at the podium? I didn't have to run my valedictorian speech through an approval committee. That seems absurd on its face...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    The problem that I have with fools like this is that they demonstrate that they really do not understand values. Is lying a "Christian Value"? I would say not. This kid lied when he turned in his speech knowing full well that he was never going to give that speech. Lying "in the name of God" is still lying.


    Remember what Christ himself said about hypocrites like this kid:
    Matthew 6:5-6 (New King James Version)

    5 "And when you pray, you shall not be like the hypocrites. For they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the corners of the streets, that they may be seen by men. Assuredly, I say to you, they have their reward. 6 But you, when you pray, go into your room, and when you have shut your door, pray to your Father who is in the secret place; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you openly.
    Meh, if you feel that's the case, this one is on his pastor, not the kid. Read the OP again, you'll see the kid checked with his pastor beforehand as to what was right in his situation and feeling the way he did about it

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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    So what? Who cares? That prayer didn't hurt anyone. The real hypocrisy isn't the lies of some dumb High School kid, but those screaming here that it should be legal but who wouldn't allow the opposite (someone perhaps denigrating gods) to occur in the same event.

    Kids lie all the time. Well so do politicians.
    It hurt the foundations of our Constitution. The fact other kids lie doesn't justify this kid. He claims and pretends to be a "Christian" and then displays deceitful behavior. He exposed himself as a fool.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Meh, if you feel that's the case, this one is on his pastor, not the kid. Read the OP again, you'll see the kid checked with his pastor beforehand as to what was right in his situation and feeling the way he did about it
    An 18 year old kid should know what "lying" is. He can try to push it off on the pastor but seriously.....if this kid doesn't know what lying is, how the hell can he be a valedictorian?
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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    It hurt the foundations of our Constitution. The fact other kids lie doesn't justify this kid. He claims and pretends to be a "Christian" and then displays deceitful behavior. He exposed himself as a fool.
    What is the foundation of our Constitution IYV?
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    You accuse the person of lying without a shred of evidence. Did you ever consider that it was a decision that came at the moment he stood at the podium? I didn't have to run my valedictorian speech through an approval committee. That seems absurd on its face...
    LOL...it didn't come from the moment he stood at the podium....did you read the article? He submitted it with the prayer, it was rejected. He plotted this out with his Pastor. It was a conscious decision. Go back and read a little and you will understand.
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