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Thread: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    It's true that he didn't follow protocol, but that wasn't an error.
    You're right. He willfully disobeyed the rule.

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    You're right. He willfully disobeyed the rule.
    His civil disobedience was deliberate, I agree.

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    What error did he make?
    From my understanding of the situation, the school district had a policy in place that the student agreed to, then knowingly violated. Either he made an error in judgement in violating the order he agreed to, or he was just a complete prick.

    Your choice.
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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    You're right. He willfully disobeyed the rule.
    You have to remember, to these people, integrity and honesty is a negative quality.
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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    I commend this kid's bold demonstrate of free speech.

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    From my understanding of the situation, the school district had a policy in place that the student agreed to, then knowingly violated. Either he made an error in judgement in violating the order he agreed to, or he was just a complete prick.

    Your choice.
    Or someone willing to break the petty rules of petty school administrators to speak his mind and exercise his freedom.
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    Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    From my understanding of the situation, the school district had a policy in place that the student agreed to, then knowingly violated. Either he made an error in judgement in violating the order he agreed to, or he was just a complete prick.

    Your choice.
    So the kid is a prick for violating a restriction on his first amendment right? The school restricts his right to express his religion, and the kid recognized that that restriction is politically correct garbage. So he violates it making him a prick. Or he made an "error" in expressing his religion.

    I'm sorry this is America. The kid...not being an affiliate of the government...had every right to pray. To tell him he didn't is to say the state does not condone his religion. The restriction is a "prohibition" on his "free exercise" of his religion.

    Guess what. The Constitution doesn't grant you the freedom from religion. To treat it as such would clearly violate the first amendment. You...and anyone else...have the right to get up and leave when someone...not affiliated with the government...decides to pray in front of you.

    This kid didnt make an error in judgement and he certainly isn't a prick. He understood his first amendment right. That is why he isn't in jail over this and also why he won't be sued. If a Muslim got up am prayed it wouldn't violate the first, and if you got up and preached about how awful Christians are it wouldn't violate the first. Why? Because if you are a citizen of the United States you have a right to free exercise of your religion (or lack thereof).
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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Or someone willing to break the petty rules of petty school administrators to speak his mind and exercise his freedom.
    So he was a complete prick. Gotcha.
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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    So he was a complete prick. Gotcha.
    Small minded school administrators and low knowledge teachers will be the death of American education. He struck a blow for freedom and excellence.
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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Voltaire X View Post
    I commend this kid's bold demonstrate of free speech.
    Where was the boldness in preaching to the converted in the knowledge that there could be no repercussions?
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