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Thread: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    In today's environment, tolerance is not tolerated if one person is intolerant of that tolerance. Good evening pg...
    Got it!

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Many things I say are considered unacceptable by others, but I'm really not too concerned about it. I don't necessarily agree with your views, but I would not attempt to stifle anything you might want to express...
    So, what was the point of the speech ?............................

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    So, what was the point of the speech ?............................
    Who cares? He said what he wanted to say. Good evening bonz...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Who cares? He said what he wanted to say. Good evening bonz...
    Good evening. Well fine. But let's not foster the idea among Christians that saying Jesus loves them is any way, shape, or form "revolutionary"......................

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    Good evening. Well fine. But let's not foster the idea among Christians that saying Jesus loves them is any way, shape, or form "revolutionary"......................
    Never implied that it was, only that we shouldn't expect all speech to conform to someone's set of rules...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    How are 1st Amendment Rights overlooked for Christians compared to other religions? Surely you must have loads of examples.

    Religion wasn't being attacked. Religion - your religion, my religion, their religion - has no place in a public school graduation address. Would you be as upset if most public school events were accompanied by Sikh prayer or a Hindu prayer or a Muslim prayer rather than a Christian prayer?

    Evolution isn't a religion. Nor is atheism. More to point, I don't know of any high school graduation address where the speaker deviated from his/her prepared speech to recite an evolution or atheist prayer.
    Would I personally like it if another religions prayer was given? No, but I wouldn't cry about it either. It is their right.
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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    A religious message does not have "to inspire war" to be seen as harmful and disruptive in a society.
    I know. It can inspire any number of negative things, it doesn't have to be war.

    Forgivness is not one of those negative or harmful things, however, which was my point.

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    What error was made? Is free speech now frowned upon depending on where it is located?
    "Free speech" isn't some pass to say whatever you want, whenever you want, wherever you want. You can't stand on a street corner shouting to the world using profane language, for example. Fire! in a theater is generally outlawed. Any owner of private property can limit your speech on their property, though the only reasonable "punishment" there is being expelled from the property. So, yes, free speech has always been "frowned upon" depending on where it is located.
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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    "Free speech" isn't some pass to say whatever you want, whenever you want, wherever you want. You can't stand on a street corner shouting to the world using profane language, for example. Fire! in a theater is generally outlawed. Any owner of private property can limit your speech on their property, though the only reasonable "punishment" there is being expelled from the property. So, yes, free speech has always been "frowned upon" depending on where it is located.
    After you have read the full exchange and get it into some context, get back to me. Until then, just ignore my posts...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    After you have read the full exchange and get it into some context, get back to me. Until then, just ignore my posts...
    I just finished reading to this post and it really doesn't change my comment any.
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