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Thread: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Again, these students had already graduated. They were simply attending a ceremony to recognize that fact. IMV, from the reaction I saw on youtube, the vast majority of the audience was in agreement with the speaker. Are you also fighting to have "In God We Trust" removed from our currency? You see, I'm not a very religious person, but I have no issue with its public expression. I'm not interested one way or the other...
    Good afternoon, AP.

    I also saw the youtube video, and I agree with your assessment of the audience's reaction. Is belief or faith in something greater than we are so scary to some people? Or is it the fact that it is something they personally do not agree with? Whatever happened to tolerance?

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Cool, I'm happy to know that if I stand up before a bunch of small children and start swearing at them, it's "appropriate".

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    Indeed it is. Other adults may, however, express themselves in opposition. Just sayin' . . .
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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Indeed it is. Other adults may, however, express themselves in opposition. Just sayin' . . .
    And what would that consist of?

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    No, he should feel free to speak his mind when addressing his classmates. That you think otherwise is a bit concerning...
    But he's not just addressing his classmates, he's addressing a crowd of people, the majority of whom are not high school age. The fact that you think any kind of behavior is appropriate whenever the spirit takes you is more than a bit concerning.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Good afternoon, AP.

    I also saw the youtube video, and I agree with your assessment of the audience's reaction. Is belief or faith in something greater than we are so scary to some people? Or is it the fact that it is something they personally do not agree with? Whatever happened to tolerance?
    In today's environment, tolerance is not tolerated if one person is intolerant of that tolerance. Good evening pg...
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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Indeed it is. Other adults may, however, express themselves in opposition. Just sayin' . . .

    You apparently don't understand the difference between "appropriate" and "without consequence".
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    But he's not just addressing his classmates, he's addressing a crowd of people, the majority of whom are not high school age. The fact that you think any kind of behavior is appropriate whenever the spirit takes you is more than a bit concerning.
    See post #1195 for further clarification. I understand you would like to stifle free speech, but I prefer to protect it...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    The point of free speech is that it's "appropriate" anywhere.
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    Good evening. Correct, but isn't it sort of like reciting "Now I Lay Me Down To Sleep" at sleeping disorder clinic ? Precocious in a late teen sort of way and completely irrelevant......................

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    See post #1195 for further clarification. I understand you would like to stifle free speech, but I prefer to protect it...
    No, I understand that just because you are free to say a thing, it may be unwise or unacceptable to actually say it. That's a lesson you ought to learn.
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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    No, I understand that just because you are free to say a thing, it may be unwise or unacceptable to actually say it. That's a lesson you ought to learn.
    Many things I say are considered unacceptable by others, but I'm really not too concerned about it. I don't necessarily agree with your views, but I would not attempt to stifle anything you might want to express...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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