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Thread: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    You prove my point.
    Your point was that you can't spell?
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Or it possibly flew right by you. Let me ask you this: Do you think speakers should always tailor their speeches to what is expected/desired by the audience or those who gave them the opportunity to speak?
    I think that depends on the circumstances entirely.

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Or it possibly flew right by you. Let me ask you this: Do you think speakers should always tailor their speeches to what is expected/desired by the audience or those who gave them the opportunity to speak?
    and the answer I have given to way too many - IT DEPENDS! There is seldom an absolute "This way" or "That way" answer when dealing with human interactions but such absolutist thinking does seem to be highly characteristic of certain folks

    I see ChrisL thinks the same way
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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I think that depends on the circumstances entirely.
    Under what circumstances do you believe someone's speech should be limited only to what is desired to be given/heard?
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Under what circumstances do you believe someone's speech should be limited only to what is desired to be given/heard?
    High school graduation ceremonies and other public school-sponsored events.

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Under what circumstances do you believe someone's speech should be limited only to what is desired to be given/heard?
    A teacher who is supposed to teach a specific subject
    “And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together.”
    ~ James Madison, letter to Edward Livingston, July 10, 1822

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    and the answer I have given to way too many - IT DEPENDS! There is seldom an absolute "This way" or "That way" answer when dealing with human interactions but such absolutist thinking does seem to be highly characteristic of certain folks
    To paraphrase our recently retired SOS, Hilary Clinton, dissent is one of the highest forms of patriotism...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    I am for gay marriage because it ticks off Jesus freaks and social conservatives. Gays are also good voters because the vote for my side so I fight next to them.

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Somerville View Post
    A teacher who is supposed to teach a specific subject
    Do you believe their method of teaching is up for scrutiny? I do, but not everyone agrees. Again, an audience is free to react as it sees fit...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
    Quote Originally Posted by James D Hill View Post
    I am for gay marriage because it ticks off Jesus freaks and social conservatives. Gays are also good voters because the vote for my side so I fight next to them.

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    To paraphrase our recently retired SOS, Hilary Clinton, dissent is one of the highest forms of patriotism...
    Do you truly want that in a public school setting? You want students to disobey rules in school?

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Your point was that you can't spell?
    You of all people should know that the only people who go after typos are those who can't argue the topic.

    You went after a typo, which means you can't counter my point that the Lord's Prayer is a message of peace.

    What matters is not if a message is religious, but if the message is constructive or harmfull. If the religious message were one to inspire war, that would not be appropriate.
    Last edited by Jerry; 06-13-13 at 07:16 PM.

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