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Thread: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    You weren't the one who said the Lord's Prayer means racism?
    *Sigh* I did not.
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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    I wasn't addressing you so I'm not sure why you are asking me this.
    You were addressing Chez's quote which addressed me. And really, I don't think anyone was saying they were offended by the speech personally, just that administration has the authority to review speeches, that this is not a 1st amendment issue, and that what the student did was dishonest.
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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    You were addressing Chez's quote which addressed me.
    I was addressing a piece of his quote, not you. There are some people who do take offense to simply hearing opposing views, why? I do not know the answer to that question. But I was not addressing you.
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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    i dont want them too nor was i pushing for that just so you are clear
    Why not, if what he did was so bad? To show our commitment to religious freedom shouldn't we really throw the book at him?

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by babilfish View Post
    Goddamn, it's a hard to be a Christian these days...
    yes, it was so much easier when you could just burn the heretics at the stake.

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by spanky View Post
    yes, it was so much easier when you could just burn the heretics at the stake.
    It was just easier when people didn't see the Lord's Prayer as hate speech. Lol.

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    It was just easier when people didn't see the Lord's Prayer as hate speech. Lol.
    Right?
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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    1.)Why not, if what he did was so bad?
    2.)To show our commitment to religious freedom shouldn't we really throw the book at him?
    1.)i personally didnt say it was so bad.
    all i have said is the school has the right to censor. limit or ban some speech as they see fit and that what he did broke the rules

    "so bad" would never come from me

    2.) no, no it this case, its done now, if they wanted to pull his mic and not let him participate in the rest of the cermony that would have been fine with me but they didnt so its past now

    the feather and tar him routine is for the hyperbolic dramatics, not myself X
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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.)i personally didnt say it was so bad.
    all i have said is the school has the right to censor. limit or ban some speech as they see fit and that what he did broke the rules

    "so bad" would never come from me

    2.) no, no it this case, its done now, if they wanted to pull his mic and not let him participate in the rest of the cermony that would have been fine with me but they didnt so its past now

    the feather and tar him routine is for the hyperbolic dramatics, not myself X
    I was just wondering why those of you who say he's a criminal for doing what he did don't want him to pay for it? If he became an arm of the state by giving a speech and he violated the constitutional rights that you believe others have NOT to hear religious beliefs, why are you ok with him getting away with it?

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    1.)I was just wondering why those of you who say he's a criminal for doing what he did don't want him to pay for it?
    2.) If he became an arm of the state by giving a speech and he violated the constitutional rights that you believe others have NOT to hear religious beliefs, why are you ok with him getting away with it?
    1.) well i never said he was a "criminal" i said he broke the rules
    2.) again i havent presented this argument as you are stating it.

    i have said the school has the right to censor, limit and ban speech per SCOTUS, this is true

    and as far as the rest, that i havent said, that would of had to go to trail for us to know that

    you cant force people to hear prayer, this is true but im not sure that would win here, it would have to go to court.

    my stance is he broke the rules and the school if they wanted to could have censored his speech and or punished him
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