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Thread: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    You get "racism and religious intolerance" from the Lord's Prayer?
    I actually got that from living there. But yes they usually go hand in hand there.
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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Religion has no place in a public school, period. I suspect those who believe it was okay for this individual to break a school rule that they personally don't like would be incensed if the same individual had recited from the Quaran instead of the Bible.
    Not I. Students have always had a right to read and talk about religion in school and only a fool thinks otherwise. The rules are about government imposition of religion, not about religion being in school. It wouldn't matter to me what the valedictorian wanted to read from, be it the Bible, the Qu'ran or Dianetics. They can knock themselves out, so long as they didn't violate any other school rules, like going off approved script, but even then, what can the school legitimately do to them, they graduated.
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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Religion has no place in a public school, period. I suspect those who believe it was okay for this individual to break a school rule that they personally don't like would be incensed if the same individual had recited from the Quaran instead of the Bible.
    You can bet the fundamentalists would have been screaming if that happened.
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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Religion has no place in a public school, period. I suspect those who believe it was okay for this individual to break a school rule that they personally don't like would be incensed if the same individual had recited from the Quaran instead of the Bible.
    I don't care if they read from the Koran, Jewish writings, or the Satanic Bible. I think free speech and freedom of religion are paramount rights that should not be infringed upon. I think school boards and lawsuits have wrongfully tried to stamp out religion from school under an abused "separation of church and state" mantra. So long as the school doesn't teach a religion as fact or give special privileges to people of certain beliefs I think anything else should be permitted.

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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Liberty High valedictorian's speech causes stir - FOX Carolina 21

    Do you think the school was right to ban this in the first place? Why or why not?
    You need to read your source and check your facts. His speech was not banned, the only point of contention is that speeches needed to be approved. What he said was not what the school had approved. He was protesting a move to remove prayer as an official part of graduation ceremony, which is realistically a good thing and appropriate to remove from a school(ie state sponsored activity) activity. When you have to distort your question for the poll, you kinda lose credibility.
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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    And the same people condemning him would not be.
    I would (btw, I'm a Christian). It doesn't matter if the student is a Christian, Muslim, or Scientologist. Point is the student misled the school and took advantage of a position of privilege. Such a position does not entitle one to freedom of speech.
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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    I actually got that from living there. But yes they usually go hand in hand there.
    Wow, what's it like to live in a such a state of perpetual sensitivity that you see Klansmen when you hear the Lord's Prayer?

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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    i dont think thats the point at all. plus all presidential speeches are CERTAINLY optional. President Obamas religion is known and it is possible to avoid his speeches. Much different than this situation.
    Reporters, Staffers, are required to be there, does that impose on their rights?
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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    I would (btw, I'm a Christian). It doesn't matter if the student is a Christian, Muslim, or Scientologist. Point is the student misled the school and took advantage of a position of privilege. Such a position does not entitle one to freedom of speech.
    You're right, as I say, he should be severely punished, you know, to show our commitment to religious freedom. Lol.

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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    He's a selfish douchebag for basically forcing a captive audience to partake in his completely religious observance.

    Just like an atheist in his position would be a selfish douchebag if he incorporated an anti-religious scree into his speech.
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