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Thread: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    I was a teacher and yes. Apples and oranges.
    How on Earth is it "apples and oranges?"


    The power there rests in a whole 'nother SCOTUS decision. See Hazelwood above.
    Please quote what you are talking about.
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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChezC3 View Post
    What you are equating is prayer to cursing, which actually is something that can be found to be offensive.
    I am not equating cursing to prayer. I am making a point: There is no such thing as complete freedom of speech in school.
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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Evolution none the less,
    That is what we call semantics and you know it.
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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    No they do not have a right to. They have no right to restrict a students free speech or that student from espousing those beliefs. They only have an obligation to not espouse it themselves.
    Glad to see someone else knows what the Constitution actually says.
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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    ....or is taking any action against the student.
    not sure what you are saying

    I personally want any action to be taken against him.
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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    ....or is taking any action against the student.
    No they are not taking action, and yes, the school said no religion in the speech.
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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    No they are not taking action, and yes, the school said no religion in the speech.
    proof, link?????

    wheres the proof the school censored anything, your post thread title is untrue
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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    I am not equating cursing to prayer. I am making a point: There is no such thing as complete freedom of speech in school.
    and perhaps that is a sad thing...

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    proof, link?????

    wheres the proof the school censored anything, your post thread title is untrue
    How is it untrue? That was the title of the article.....
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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    How is it untrue? That was the title of the article.....
    the title of the article is "Liberty High valedictorian's speech causes stir"
    theres ZERO proof or evidence it happened so far


    the article doesnt talk about censorship at all unless i missed it, and if i did please point it out to me.
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