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Thread: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Nobody tells the evolutionist or Athiest to shutup, that they can't spread their religion in schools.
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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    You don't have the right to not hear the religion of someone else.
    In certain circumstances you do not have the right to preach.
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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    You don't have the right to not hear the religion of someone else.
    You live in a backward universe. The Constitution's 1st Amendment IS NOT the right to be heard, only freedom of speech, which we clearly know has limitations.

    If you chose to express and/or impose your personal religious beliefs in a venue, which are subject to public or private policies and/or laws, there may be consequences that you might be required to submit to. Federal and State funded educational systems and facilities are subject to policies and laws, which may well impede or limit a person's freedom of speech.

    Most all private corporations have the right to impede or limit freedom of speech.

    BTW...I noticed a comment you made in another post regarding atheist and evolutionists. Atheism isn't a religion no matter how much you claim it to be so. Evolution is a derivative of science...which is certainly not a religion.

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    You live in a backward universe. The Constitution's 1st Amendment IS NOT the right to be heard, only freedom of speech, which we clearly know has limitations.

    If you chose to express and/or impose your personal religious beliefs in a venue, which are subject to public or private policies and/or laws, there may be consequences that you might be required to submit to. Federal and State funded educational systems and facilities are subject to policies and laws, which may well impede or limit a person's freedom of speech.

    Most all private corporations have the right to impede or limit freedom of speech.

    BTW...I noticed a comment you made in another post regarding atheist and evolutionists. Atheism isn't a religion no matter how much you claim it to be so. Evolution is a derivative of science...which is certainly not a religion.
    The First Amendment:
    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    The First Amendment:
    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
    Uh huh...and we both know that's not without limits.

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
    Uh huh...and we both know that's not without limits.
    Yes, we do. But where those limits are is the point of the discussion. I'm not a lawyer so I won't pretend to know. The young man did a brave and principled thing. Ours would be a better country if more valedictorians, of all beliefs and unbelief, did the same.
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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Yes, we do. But where those limits are is the point of the discussion. I'm not a lawyer so I won't pretend to know. The young man did a brave and principled thing. Ours would be a better country if more valedictorians, of all beliefs and unbelief, did the same.
    There was nothing brave about what this idiot did. He is an attention whore....nothing more. He claims to be "Christian"....yet knows nothing about the man he claims to worship. He is a hypocrite and a Pharisee who should educate himself before he opens his mouth.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    There was nothing brave about what this idiot did. He is an attention whore....nothing more. He claims to be "Christian"....yet knows nothing about the man he claims to worship. He is a hypocrite and a Pharisee who should educate himself before he opens his mouth.
    Says you.

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Says you.

    "Here I stand. I can do no other." --Martin Luther before the Diet of Worms, 1521.
    Correct. There was nothing brave about this. The kid exposed himself as just another hypocrite "Christian" who love to pray to the world, but knows very little about the man they profess to worship.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Removable Mind View Post
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    BTW...I noticed a comment you made in another post regarding atheist and evolutionists. Atheism isn't a religion no matter how much you claim it to be so. Evolution is a derivative of science...which is certainly not a religion.
    That would be your opinion.
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