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Thread: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    On the public dime.
    That's why we pay for public education. He's a successful outcome.
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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    That's why we pay for public education. He's a successful outcome.
    Yeah reciting an ages old common prayer is such a success.

    Now the cry for attention worked pretty well though.

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Out.

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Goodnight Polgara

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    I think one needs to be very careful about chanting "freedom of speech".

    I personally don't have a problem with the kid reciting a religious passage. It's his time. He can use it as he wishes.

    However, suppose he started reciting....
    Your suppositions are not what actually occurred, though, which makes all the difference. In this case, yes chanting "freedom of speech" is completely appropriate because of the facts surrounding this situation.

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    I don't know about our school districts policy, but i do know during my daughters graduation tonight, the valedictorian thanked his lord and savior Jesus Christ and brought the house down with applause.. about 10,000 people went nuts...standing ovation and all.

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    This kid is exactly the kind of hypocrite that Jesus Christ spoke about when he talked about the Pharisees that love to stand and pray in in public so that others will see them. This kid is an attention whore who felt the need to stand in the public square and show his "spirituality" for all to see. Too funny that he can't even see that he is mocking the god that he claims to worship.
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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Is public property not owned by the public?
    yes... very true, parks, streets, buildings, other things... however in places where to don't have a captive audience like open spaces,with people constantly moving about and continuing with there own business, people engaging in freedom of speech is not a problem, because a person or persons have the ability to just walk away.

    but in a public building, where the public must transact some nature of business, like the DMV, or SS office, people are no able to just move along, just walk away, they are held there until they finish any business they have between themselves and the state.

    this does not give individuals or groups of people the ability to just say anything they choose or engage in any action, among that captive audience, because people may find their action or words offensive.

    this is why speech can be limited ,when a person or persons use the right to speech to abuse/ lecture/ self educate the people, while they are in public buildings, this helps to prevent altercations which may occur.
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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Yes...
    here is where I agree with you, and why , because your going to a speech, and the topic can be on a variety of things, and if you don't like the speech, you can walk away.

    years ago Linda Ronstadt was doing a music tour, and of coarse people wanted to hear her MUSIC, however during the concerts, she began to inject her leftist political ideas to the audience, which many people did not like, they had paid to hear her sing, not to hear political thoughts.

    they wanted their money back, stating they didn't pay for her ideas but for her music, and they demanded there money, however they where questioned why?, when... they did get to hear her sing. this is an example of holding a captive audience using the power of money, to promote your political agenda.

    the other example I have used for this thread is person using their speech, holding a captive audience while people are trying to transact official business between themselves and the state.

    you cant use public buildings/institutions where people have to convene, and make it your soapbox, for anything you wish to say.
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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Yeah reciting an ages old common prayer is such a success.

    Now the cry for attention worked pretty well though.
    He follows in a great tradition.
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