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Thread: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Well, this is the last straw for me. We are getting NO where. What you are suggesting is just foolish.
    What would you objection be? If he had said something that was revolting to most, he would have been ridiculed. If he had incited violence against a public official, he would have been detained. He stated his thoughts as to why he he believed he had been successful in school, yet you find that objectionable. I don't understand the thought process...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    He is there to speak and you are there to listen. Do you make this point at every speech in a public building or just this one?
    Good evening, Henrin.

    Lately, it seems that anything that has to do with religion of any type is cause for alarm from some, and it makes me wonder why! I realize that there are factions that would prefer that the government be the one telling everyone what to think, but we have a Constitution and a Bill of Rights that gives us our protections, and those documents treat everyone equally. Government doesn't always do the same. :

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    And people with other ideals should promote theirs. I'd like to see hundreds of statements of conviction by principled valedictorians across the country and across the full spectrum of belief and unbelief. We would be a better country.
    I do not disagree in principle, Jack. However, having a long history of family in South Carolina, since 1715, I doubt that **** will play well in many parts of the nation.










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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by JC Callender View Post
    Evening Jack.....wasn't what he did dishonest? And didn't he conspire to do it?
    That's not the way I see it. He did a brave and principled thing to resist illegitimate restraint on his expression of his convictions.

    And good evening, JCC.
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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Kind of like how a great deal of public speeches want to promote a single ideal.
    Weare not just talking about public speech. We are talking about speech supported on the public dime.

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Weare not just talking about public speech. We are talking about speech supported on the public dime.
    No one supported the speech other than the speaker. He wasn't paid...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    No one supported the speech other than the speaker. He wasn't paid...
    Some one paid the rent that night. And it was rhe tax payers.

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Some one paid the rent that night. And it was rhe tax payers.
    Were the taxpayers harmed in some way?
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    I am for gay marriage because it ticks off Jesus freaks and social conservatives. Gays are also good voters because the vote for my side so I fight next to them.

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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    What would you objection be? If he had said something that was revolting to most, he would have been ridiculed. If he had incited violence against a public official, he would have been detained. He stated his thoughts as to why he he believed he had been successful in school, yet you find that objectionable. I don't understand the thought process...
    Answer me, Alabama Paul. If he had declared that homosexuality had enabled him to realize his full academic potential and if he had advocated the consideration of homosexuality for anyone aspiring to excel academically, you would vehemently support his commencement address? And, therefore, you would support and advocate the same right for future commencement speakers?










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    Re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    I do not disagree in principle, Jack. However, having a long history of family in South Carolina, since 1715, I doubt that **** will play well in many parts of the nation.
    I understand. I'm fairly far along in years, and increasingly impatient with those for whom "freedom is just a small word."
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