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Thread: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    So long as it was the valedictorian of their own free will and the school administration was not involved, they can say just about anything they want to say. Separation of church and state only addresses a situation where the school, as a representative of the state, does such things.
    There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide the world that cannot be achieved more rationally through entirely secular means.

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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    And why is it then ok for the President to do the same?
    i honestly have no clue what that has to do with anything
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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    you have checked with every school in the US? Each school has different policies. There are no laws saying that but that doesn't mean the schools dont.
    Nice try, but your graduation certificate is in no way connected to the ceremony the school holds. It is connected soley to the educational requirements of each state for attaining that certificate.

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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Religion has no place in a public school, period. I suspect those who believe it was okay for this individual to break a school rule that they personally don't like would be incensed if the same individual had recited from the Quaran instead of the Bible.

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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    i honestly have no clue what that has to do with anything
    The point is, does the President or Supereme Court have more Free Speech Rights and Freedom of Religion Rights then the student does?
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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by iacardsfan View Post
    Well yes, South Carolina is a place where racism and religious intolerance along with ignorance is quite common. I lived there for quite some time. Much happier up north. It explains why he got standing ovations, other places where ethnic diversity is not frowned upon might have been taken more seriously. Alas the kid might be looked at as a hero, and it might not have offended anybody at all, and if that's the case then by all means congrats and continue to spread the word of your God. This isn't that big of a story to get so worked up upon. I just don't want the freedom of religion to be trampled on by close minded people.
    You get "racism and religious intolerance" from the Lord's Prayer?

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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Nice try, but your graduation certificate is in no way connected to the ceremony the school holds. It is connected soley to the educational requirements of each state for attaining that certificate.
    Let'd be honest here. If it was the way you are making it out to seem like there would be only a fraction of students attending. Those people had no idea what they were getting into when they showed up.
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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Religion has no place in a public school, period. I suspect those who believe it was okay for this individual to break a school rule that they personally don't like would be incensed if the same individual had recited from the Quaran instead of the Bible.
    And the same people condemning him would not be.

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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    No, I'm aware of the reasons the schools do that and it's their last grasp for the illusory control they have. The fact of the matter is there is absolutely nothing the school can do if the valedictorian goes off script (except perhaps shut off the mic).
    Never said there was much the school could do once the student went off-script. Doesn't mean he was right to do so.
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    re: Valedictorian Defies School District and Recites Lord's Prayer [W:618]

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    The point is, does the President or Supereme Court have more Free Speech Rights and Freedom of Religion Rights then the student does?
    i dont think thats the point at all. plus all presidential speeches are CERTAINLY optional. President Obamas religion is known and it is possible to avoid his speeches. Much different than this situation.
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