View Poll Results: Is Bradley Manning a Whistleblower or Traitor?

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    Re: Bradley Manning: Patriotic Whistleblower or Traitor?

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    While I agree he probably committed a crime, I disagree that the crime was treason. He gave the information to Wikileaks, not Al Qaeda.
    By giving information to Wikileaks, he gave it to Al Qaeda.

    Whether he can be convicted of treason or not, I am not going to guess. I can certainly see an argument that makes that case. Without actually being at the trial and hearing the presentation of evidence and the exact law, I cannot make a proper informed decision on it. I do believe he will end up with life in jail, so whether they actually call his crime treason or whatever does not significantly matter to me. He is not going to be executed, but he will never go free. I am pretty ok with that.
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    Re: Bradley Manning: Patriotic Whistleblower or Traitor?

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    It's obvious you don't live on the Left Coast.
    So how exactly are people forcing their lifestyle on you on the "left coast"?
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    Re: Bradley Manning: Patriotic Whistleblower or Traitor?

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    So how exactly are people forcing their lifestyle on you on the "left coast"?
    Being told that I must except someones lifestyle or they put a label on me. I believe there are some examples above.

    Some people criticize the lifestyle of Hells Angels and reject their lifestyle. (It is a lifestyle just as being a surfer is a lifestyle) Do Angels or PC liberals accuse those who are scared of them and reject their lifestyle of being angelphobes ? Maybe it's Harleyphobes ?

    Taking personal responsibility for your own actions and personal security and having a firearm in your home for protecting your family and home is a lifestyle and liberals label these people as gun nuts.

    Being a U.S. Marine is a lifestyle and white beard scratching liberals have decided that Marines are no longer allowed to talk like Marines. I suppose next they will decide that earning the right to be called a Marine isn't politically correct and maggots while trying to earn that right of being called a Marine while going through Marine Corps boot camp must be called a Marine even though they haven't earned that right.

    Unlike the Army, Navy and Air Force, when an Army recruit shows up for recruit training, he's a soldier, When a Navy recruit shows up at Great Lakes, he's a sailor. When a recruit shows up at Marine Corps boot camp (MCRD) he isn't a Marine, he's regurgitated puke, a maggot a piece of dog crap. For three months he will never be addressed as a Marine until he earns that right. On that day when he graduates he will be awarded the emblem of the Eagle, Globe and Anchor and for the first time be allowed to wear it on his uniform and for the first time will be addressed as a U.S. Marine. There are PC liberals who want to change that 200 year old tradition.

    Then there's the individual freedoms that we use to have on the "Left Coast" (California) that are no more. Individual freedoms that we took for granted and one day you find those individual freedoms were taken away by the political left. I can list hundreds of them. From what kind of light bulb I must use in my kitchen, the type of toilet I crap in, the type of gun I can own, what I can carry in the back of my pick-up truck, what hours I can be on a beach. You can't even sleep on 99 % of the beaches on the Left Coast ! You use too.

    If it's 32 degrees at night and you want to put a log in the fireplace, you now have to drop a dime or go on the internet to find out if you have permission to put a log in the fireplace. Seems to me, using a fireplace or a wood burning stove to keep warm is a lifestyle.

    Now there are liberal legislatures who want cooking pressure cookers to be treated like guns. Background checks, waiting periods and limits on the capacity of the pressure cookers.

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    Re: Bradley Manning: Patriotic Whistleblower or Traitor?

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    We are not at war with Wikileaks.
    No, we aren't. Our government and many other governments around the world are hostile toward them. I side with the government.
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    Re: Bradley Manning: Patriotic Whistleblower or Traitor?

    A hero who deserves a medal. Telling the truth and revealing crimes is not a crime, its telling the truth, and telling the truth is not a crime.


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    Re: Bradley Manning: Patriotic Whistleblower or Traitor?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    A hero who deserves a medal. Telling the truth and revealing crimes is not a crime, its telling the truth, and telling the truth is not a crime.
    For those who do not know, it was Daniel Ellsberg that released the Pentagon Papers that revealed much of the truth about our involvement in Vietnam.

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    Re: Bradley Manning: Patriotic Whistleblower or Traitor?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    A hero who deserves a medal. Telling the truth and revealing crimes is not a crime, its telling the truth, and telling the truth is not a crime.
    But that isn't what Manning did, is it?

    If he released footage to the media of what he believed was a criminal action that was being covered up, that is revealing a crime; dumping hundreds of thousands of classified files into the internet without a clue as to what those files contained, how they might be used, and who might be harmed by them, that IS a crime.

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    Re: Bradley Manning: Patriotic Whistleblower or Traitor?

    manning is a thief!
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    Re: Bradley Manning: Patriotic Whistleblower or Traitor?

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    It's obvious you don't live on the Left Coast.
    No, I live in the Chicagoland area and frequent the Northside on a regular basis with friends. Plenty of queers. But I'm much more comfortable there compared to the Southside.
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    Re: Bradley Manning: Patriotic Whistleblower or Traitor?

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    No, I live in the Chicagoland area and frequent the Northside on a regular basis with friends. Plenty of queers. But I'm much more comfortable there compared to the Southside.
    I use to have a lot of uncles, aunts and cousins who lived over on the North Side during the 50's - 80's. They all lived on Winchester.

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