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    Re: Should The Government Mandate Childhood Immunizations?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    But the argument isn't just that they need these immunizations if they want to engage in certain public services like education, it's that their decision not to immunize in and of itself puts others at risk by increasing the risk of infection and allowing the disease to reemerge in a community that had previously eradicated it as a result of mass vaccination. This can and has happened especially with a variety of childhood ailements that have made a minor come back as a result of vaccination hysteria among parents that was cultivated in the 80's and 90's.
    Well, then any parent concerned about those risks could still get their kids the shots, and I'm sure that's what most parents would do. Isn't this one of those things parents should get to decide?

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    Re: Should The Government Mandate Childhood Immunizations?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Well, then any parent concerned about those risks could still get their kids the shots, and I'm sure that's what most parents would do. Isn't this one of those things parents should get to decide?
    Part of the problem is when parents become convinced that vaccines aren't a positive thing, or that they can change the regiment and cycle--it kills people. It's a situation where quite frankly no a parent does not know best. A solid example is the big measles outbreak we had from about 1987-1992 which resulted in around 60,000 infections and something like 150 deaths. This was a disease that was previously eradicated in our country but and an upsurge after the anti-vaccination hysteria which allowed the disease to gain a foothold and weakened our herd immunity which resulted in younger children and those who could not be vaccinated to be very vulnerable to infection. After we tightened restrictions and increased burdens for those who avoided vaccinations the incidence rate plummeted and we've only had a few hundred cases in the past 20 years.

    The other argument that is often brought up is whether parents should have the moral right to needlessly expose their children to disease.

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    Re: Should The Government Mandate Childhood Immunizations?

    No. I don't really mind if people immunize their children or they decide not to and I don't think the government should concern themselves with it either.

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    Re: Should The Government Mandate Childhood Immunizations?

    If parents don't want to immunize their kids,I feel that is their right...Just keep those lil' plague carriers away from my grandbabies.

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    Re: Should The Government Mandate Childhood Immunizations?

    Maybe there should be more choices?

    For instance, how about not making the immunizations mandatory, but allowing people to be charged with creating a public health threat if their immunized child contracts a disease they could have had shots for?
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    Re: Should The Government Mandate Childhood Immunizations?

    ...In its zeal to identify bin Laden or his family, the CIA used a sham hepatitis B vaccination project to collect DNA in the neighborhood where he was hiding...

    ...The deadly consequences have already begun. Villagers along the Pakistan-Afghanistan border chased off legitimate vaccine workers, accusing them of being spies. Taliban commanders banned polio vaccinations in parts of Pakistan, specifically citing the bin Laden ruse as justification. Then, last December, nine vaccine workers were murdered in Pakistan, eventually prompting the United Nations to withdraw its vaccination teams. Two months later gunmen killed 10 polio workers in Nigeriaa sign that the violence against vaccinators may be spreading...

    How the CIAs Fake Vaccination Campaign Endangers Us All


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    Re: Should The Government Mandate Childhood Immunizations?

    I think requiring it to attend school is a good compromise. That way enough children are vaccinated that herd immunity can work. And at the same time you aren't throwing parents in jail.

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    Re: Should The Government Mandate Childhood Immunizations?

    It depends on the severity of the disease being vaccinated against. If something like small pox appeared, I would support mandatory vaccinations for every single living human who even sets foot on U.S. soil with no exceptions and serious penalties for failure to comply. The lesser the disease, the lesser the requirement to be vaccinated (like a mandate for school children) until the ailment is minor enough (or the vaccine ineffective enough) it shouldn't be a requirement.

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    Re: Should The Government Mandate Childhood Immunizations?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Michele Bachman's gotten some press lately (for whatever reason) and it reminded me of how she went after Rick Perry for trying to require that HPV shot in Texas. I think this raises an interesting question. I don't have kids so I don't know if it already a law that you get your kids their shots or not, but should this be something the government should require, you as a parent, to have done? I see cogent arguments both ways. What do you think?

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    The government already does via the schools. If you want to send your child to a public school then they must be immunized or they will not be let in.

    That said, no, the government should not be forcing people to take medicine of any kind.
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    Re: Should The Government Mandate Childhood Immunizations?

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    With 300+ million people and the low level of intelligence....yes. It's a shame really but reality trumps fantasies of "freedom".
    I agree. That's why every liberal on this planet should be admitted to a European mental institution for psychiatric observation.

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