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Death penalty for voter fraud

Do you support the death penalty for voter fraud?

  • I'm a Democrat and approve the death penalty for committing voter fraud.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • I'm a Republican and approve the death penalty for committing voter fraud

    Votes: 1 1.3%

  • I'm neither a Democrat nor Republican and approve the death penalty for committing voter fraud.

    Votes: 4 5.3%

  • I'm a Democrat and disapprove the death penalty for committing voter fraud.

    Votes: 13 17.3%

  • I'm a Republican and disapprove of the death penalty for committing voter fraud.

    Votes: 10 13.3%

  • I'm neither a Democrat nor Republican and disapprove the death penalty for committing voter fraud.

    Votes: 47 62.7%
  • Total voters
    75
Indeed said:
Usually because it doesn't get caught.

[video]https://www.declarationentertainment.com/scribing/voter-fraud-101[/video]
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actually it gets caught quite often,rather its one of the hardest things to prove,even if the us govt cracked down on ever accusation,it wouldnt have the manpower to investigate,and bring to trial all or even most of the cases.

of course people go by the innocent until proven guilty,considering how impossible it is to convict the mass amount of suspected voter fraud,most would walk away without any such means of proving it.
infact the us govt doesnt even search for it,local cities search for it during local state and federal elections,while federal authorities tend to pick from a hat.
 
Muhammed said:
So would you support capital punishment for people who commit voter fraud?

Please explain why or why not.
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the punishment should fit the crime,if someone is caught commiting voter fraud,that person should be barred from ever voting again,much like someone who takes someones life unjustly would have his ownlife taken.

if the punishment exceeds the crime,than we do not live in any modern society,it bugs me that rape often gives heavier sentences than murder,that smoking pot has heavier sentences than theft,etc.
 
yobarnacle said:
Do your OWN research.

You can't AFFORD to hire me!

I get $650 a day :)
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Apparently you cannot afford to prove your own claims. As it is you have only a few anecdotes and nothing more.

And therein lies the rub as Bill S once said. I have done the research. Lots of research. And voter fraud is a tiny infinitesimal blip on the screen and now really a significant problem at all.

Here is the verifiable evidence from a very respected authority on the subject

http://www.brennancenter.org/sites/default/files/legacy/The Truth About Voter Fraud.pdf
 
haymarket said:
Apparently you cannot afford to prove your own claims. As it is you have only a few anecdotes and nothing more.

And therein lies the rub as Bill S once said. I have done the research. Lots of research. And voter fraud is a tiny infinitesimal blip on the screen and now really a significant problem at all.

Here is the verifiable evidence from a very respected authority on the subject

http://www.brennancenter.org/sites/default/files/legacy/The Truth About Voter Fraud.pdf
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"It is more likely that an individual will
be struck by lightning than that he will
impersonate another voter at the polls"

I'd be in favor of lightning striking anyone engaged in voter fraud! :D

I don't have to prove anything to you.

We have 33 states who hold a contrary opinion than yours, and passed laws for voter ID.


We will SEE, if the results are more in line with Americas values! :)
 
yobarnacle said:
"It is more likely that an individual will
be struck by lightning than that he will
impersonate another voter at the polls"

I'd be in favor of lightning striking anyone engaged in voter fraud! :D

I don't have to prove anything to you.

We have 33 states who hold a contrary opinion than yours, and passed laws for voter ID.


We will SEE, if the results are more in line with Americas values! :)
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Voter ID laws are not evidence of voter fraud.

Republicans manipulating the election process and who can be discouraged from voting to increase their parties odds of victory are not American values.
 
haymarket said:
Voter ID laws are not evidence of voter fraud.

Republicans manipulating the election process and who can be discouraged from voting to increase their parties odds of victory are not American values.
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Voter ID isn't discouraging anyone from voting. Most already HAVE IDs. The dems will have an ID drive to get folks one that don't have them.

But illegals won't get them.

people on rolls in 2 states aren't likely to have 2 different state IDs.

Dead people won't have them, but dead people SHOULD be discouraged from voting.

The POSITIVE side is, ordinarily hard working americans who HAVE been discouraged because they feel elections are rigged, will now be ENCOURAGED to vote. Their vote WILL count!

And somebody pretending to be them, won't get to cast that vote.

Voter IDs are GOOD!

We are taking America BACK!

and i'm not republican.
 
haymarket said:
Voter ID laws are not evidence of voter fraud.

Republicans manipulating the election process and who can be discouraged from voting to increase their parties odds of victory are not American values.
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Voter ID is NOT evidence of voter fraud.

It's in RESPONSE to voter fraud, as in stopping fraud, or some, or most of it. Hopefully!
 
Is this a joke? C'mon.
 
yobarnacle said:
Voter ID is NOT evidence of voter fraud.

It's in RESPONSE to voter fraud, as in stopping fraud, or some, or most of it. Hopefully!
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Why hve you skipped the important step of demonstrating that voter fraud is a significant problem that demands action?
 
I think that voter fraud is a serious problem, but the death penalty for punishment is WAY out in left field.
 
So, at this point in time, four people here are extremists ( in my opinion)...
And which is worse, fraud, or not being bothered to vote at all ???
And the vast majority are people who can think for them selves...neither GOP or Dem....
interesting
 
AliHajiSheik said:
Nothing to prove, you acknowledge that there is some voter fraud and you have presented no sense of what amount of voter fraud you would consider to be significant. Doesn't really leave a practical basis for discussion. As for impotency, don't project your issues on to me.
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IMO, the quantity of voter fauld that we have today is NOT sifficient for extremists going around and killing people..
I do like the concept of the ID card.....with oversight and regulations....there is as ever, the criminal element.
Extremists can be a problem.
 
earthworm said:
So, at this point in time, four people here are extremists ( in my opinion)...
And which is worse, fraud, or not being bothered to vote at all ???
And the vast majority are people who can think for them selves...neither GOP or Dem....
interesting
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I'd say most of us are split in our political views. I know there are "Republicans" on here who don't agree with everything the R's stand for and "Democrats" who don't believe in everything the D's stand for.

Even though I tend to lean toward the D's I wouldn't say I am one because I radically disagree with some of their beliefs. For example, when it comes to gun control I'm extreme right and I'm extreme-to-center right on the military.
 
Muhammed said:
So would you support capital punishment for people who commit voter fraud?

Please explain why or why not.
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Voter fraud would hardly constitute the death penalty. Imprisonment and fines, yes, but not death.
 
earthworm said:
IMO, the quantity of voter fauld that we have today is NOT sifficient for extremists going around and killing people..
I do like the concept of the ID card.....with oversight and regulations....there is as ever, the criminal element.
Extremists can be a problem.
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I don't quite follow your point. The various voter ID laws across the states are the regulations and I'm not sure what kind of oversight you are describing. In my state of PA, the only concern any of the courts had was around the timing of implementation. Many forms of ID are accepted, and absent those, there is a state voter ID card which is free. This even includes nursing home ID cards. I'm not aware of any of the states that are implementing voter ID laws that don't have some implementation of a provisional ballot should someone not be on a registration list.
 
Maybe the death penalty needs to be saved for those who don't vote rather than fraudulent voters. At least the so-called criminal voted.

From what I've witnessed over my lifetime in this country...this nation's political parties and government have evolved into a very corrupt and self-serving system without any help from people engaging in any fraudulent intent to sway election outcomes.
 
Removable Mind said:
Maybe the death penalty needs to be saved for those who don't vote rather than fraudulent voters. At least the so-called criminal voted.

From what I've witnessed over my lifetime in this country...this nation's political parties and government have evolved into a very corrupt and self-serving system without any help from people engaging in any fraudulent intent to sway election outcomes.
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I encouraged folks to vote prior to 2012 election. Many who weren't planning to vote, gave reason as it's futile because elections are rigged.
THIS IS the result of voter fraud and political bosses in national committees "hand picking" convention delegates, and rigged voting machines.

Obviously I didn't talk to a LARGE percentage of the population. But I was appalled at the LARGE % of those I DID talk to who had lost faith in the election system, were discouraged and so effectively disenfranchised.

THAT'S why I think vote fraud, high handed political bosses, and vote machine hackers, DESERVE the severest of punishment when caught.

They are helping to destroy this country.

That's treason.
 
I like how the real result of the poll is that most people on this forum don't want to be labeled as adhering to either major political party.
 
haymarket said:
Why hve you skipped the important step of demonstrating that voter fraud is a significant problem that demands action?
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You got it wrong. No one needs to demonstrate ANYTHING to your satisfaction. I already did determine to MY satisfaction. And so did many others to their satisfaction. And the majority of citizens of 33 states decided they needed protection from vote fraud by implementing voter ID.

YOU seem to be unable to accept that. But voter IDs are now a fact in 33 states, whether you accept it or not.

And more states will choose voter IDs in future.
 
yobarnacle said:
You got it wrong. No one needs to demonstrate ANYTHING to your satisfaction. I already did determine to MY satisfaction. And so did many others to their satisfaction. And the majority of citizens of 33 states decided they needed protection from vote fraud by implementing voter ID.

YOU seem to be unable to accept that. But voter IDs are now a fact in 33 states, whether you accept it or not.

And more states will choose voter IDs in future.
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Thank you for admitting you have no verifiable evidence to demonstrate any problem that a citizen should demand action for.
 
yobarnacle said:
I encouraged folks to vote prior to 2012 election. Many who weren't planning to vote, gave reason as it's futile because elections are rigged.
THIS IS the result of voter fraud and political bosses in national committees "hand picking" convention delegates, and rigged voting machines.

Obviously I didn't talk to a LARGE percentage of the population. But I was appalled at the LARGE % of those I DID talk to who had lost faith in the election system, were discouraged and so effectively disenfranchised.

THAT'S why I think vote fraud, high handed political bosses, and vote machine hackers, DESERVE the severest of punishment when caught.

They are helping to destroy this country.

That's treason.
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I've never seen any worthwhile evidence that voter fraud by persons at the polls are substantial enough to alter the outcome of an election.

Gerrymandering by politicians is way more the problem.
 
haymarket said:
Thank you for admitting you have no verifiable evidence to demonstrate any problem that a citizen should demand action for.
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I admitted no such thing.

And your debate tactics wouldn't be accepted on even a high school debate team.

You are entitled to your own opinion, but NOT your own FACTS! :D
 
Removable Mind said:
I've never seen any worthwhile evidence that voter fraud by persons at the polls are substantial enough to alter the outcome of an election.

Gerrymandering by politicians is way more the problem.
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We have numerous problems that make elections fraudulent. Gerrymandering is INDEED one.
People voting in multiple states during the same election is another.
people voting as deceased citizens, people mailing in multiple ballots, people rigging vote machines, people ignoring votes, or deliberately LOSING votes, all are significant.

We NEED to fix the system.

The democrats yell fraud the loudest when THEY lose.

Let's fix the system for a fair vote for ALL of us.

Remember success is in the details.
the old example, For lack of a horseshoe nail, this small detail extrapolated into loss of the war.

Voter IDs is a good start.
 
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Wasn't there some voter registration fraud going on with ACORN?
 
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