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Death penalty for voter fraud

Do you support the death penalty for voter fraud?

  • I'm a Democrat and approve the death penalty for committing voter fraud.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • I'm a Republican and approve the death penalty for committing voter fraud

    Votes: 1 1.3%

  • I'm neither a Democrat nor Republican and approve the death penalty for committing voter fraud.

    Votes: 4 5.3%

  • I'm a Democrat and disapprove the death penalty for committing voter fraud.

    Votes: 13 17.3%

  • I'm a Republican and disapprove of the death penalty for committing voter fraud.

    Votes: 10 13.3%

  • I'm neither a Democrat nor Republican and disapprove the death penalty for committing voter fraud.

    Votes: 47 62.7%
  • Total voters
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Redress said:
I did in fact go to the site. That was how I knew it was bat**** insane. I quoted the title of the video exactly as it appeared in my web browser. I never said there was "basically no voter fraud". I never said "I am right no matter what...". Well done, wrong on every count!
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There is no evidence of any considerable voter fraud.
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Do you have anything from some place not bat**** insane?
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Why would I waste my valuable time watching a video from a bat**** insane source? By the way, youtube videos are not what would be called reliable or accurate sources of information either. The people who posted this video also posted one called "Campus Censorship and the End of America". Can't imagine why I do not consider them reliable...
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You stated that you didn't watch the vid and still said that it was bat**** insane. How could you know if it’s bat**** insane if you’ve never seen it? You said that there was no evidence of voter fraud. The vid presents an argument contrary to your statement, but you show me no willingness to even observe the other side of the argument. You stated that what I displayed didn't matter because of its source. Most of what I said was justified. And you didn’t mention my point that you, being a reasonable person, would actually check to see if anything you said was accurate, you know, like if you actually thought you had a leg to stand on.A
 
Sure, I am in no danger of committing voter fraud. It is one of those laws that would have little or no effect on anyone
 
Every rational, compassionate human being would agree that voter fraud ought to be punished by castration and/or winter vacations in Belarus.
 
digsbe said:
I only support the death penalty in cases where a life was taken. No lives are taken with voter fraud.
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Sure they are, go check out certain parts of Africa where warlords use mass voter fraud to maintain their grip on power and violence while still being eligible for international financial aid. Voter fraud is where the party is at when it comes to committing "legitimate" genocide.
 
Muhammed said:
So would you support capital punishment for people who commit voter fraud?

Please explain why or why not.
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Implement the death penalty for malfeasance and the desire to commit voter fraud will died down.
 
Muhammed said:
So would you support capital punishment for people who commit voter fraud?

Please explain why or why not.
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Bit by bit the Internet is killing the human spirit.

No. Killing people for voter fraud is an action that possesses no wisdom, reason, or goodness, so logically it is a behavior we should avoid.
 
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Muhammed said:
So would you support capital punishment for people who commit voter fraud?

Please explain why or why not.
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Only tyrannies draft punishments completely unproportional to the crime. Solid fine, possible minimum security jail time.

zgoldsmith23 said:
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Man I love Amy Poehler. Parks and Rec is my favorite show.
 
I voted 'no'...and what a ridiculous poll.

And the next poll might be whether we put people to death for starting ridiculous polls.

Btw, I also vote 'no' to that one.
 
I wouldn't strongly oppose it, but jail time, fine and permanent loss of voting privileges would probably suffice. An extreme penalty like this will theoretically only harm those stupid enough to still try getting away with it.
 
Indeed said:
Did you actually watch the video, or did you see the site name and immediately snap your mind shut? No, that place is not bat**** insane. Watch the vid, then tell me that none of it makes any semblance of sense. Even if it were completely insane, the vid is 4 min long, not a hardship regardless of bias.



Here's the vid from youtube. Maybe you'll find this site more palatable.
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Although that guy is an awesome artist, that video does nothing to back up your claims that:

it doesn't get caught.
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The video shows the potential for abuse does exist, but no actual evidence.
 
I don't understand why everyone thinks this is so ridiculous. Voter fraud can change the outcome of an election. That can potentially get millions of people killed. It's been going on in parts of Africa for decades. It isn't some victimless, inconsequential crime. It can end up costing lives.
 
HumanBeing said:
I don't understand why everyone thinks this is so ridiculous. Voter fraud can change the outcome of an election. That can potentially get millions of people killed. It's been going on in parts of Africa for decades. It isn't some victimless, inconsequential crime. It can end up costing lives.
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The go to the African section and ask your poll question for what people think about voter fraud in Africa.
 
AliHajiSheik said:
The go to the African section and ask your poll question for what people think about voter fraud in Africa.
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It's not my poll or my question, nor is there anything about the wording to suggest it was intended to be specific to any one country. Still, the point stands anywhere in the world, voter fraud can have deadly consequences on a massive scale, so the idea of it being punishable by death doesn't seem that far off the mark to me. If I'm wrong, say why.
 
HumanBeing said:
I don't understand why everyone thinks this is so ridiculous. Voter fraud can change the outcome of an election. That can potentially get millions of people killed. It's been going on in parts of Africa for decades. It isn't some victimless, inconsequential crime. It can end up costing lives.
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Right. And they'll introduce the death penalty for it in Africa, when the person that wins is usually the one who has committed the most fraud. :roll:
 
I think that killing people for voter fraud is a little bit extreme. Okay, a LOT extreme. :lol:
 
Muhammed said:
So would you support capital punishment for people who commit voter fraud?

Please explain why or why not.
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So that we can properly gauge this situation, can you tell us the number of actual election fraud convictions in the last election cycle?
 
haymarket said:
So that we can properly gauge this situation, can you tell us the number of actual election fraud convictions in the last election cycle?
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Do you mean in America? No I can't, I'm not American. I'm in Cambodia, we've had the same "democratically elected" prime minister for about 30 years. We know all about voter fraud here, though there are never any "convictions" for it if it's successful. That's kind of the point ;)
 
HumanBeing said:
Do you mean in America? No I can't, I'm not American. I'm in Cambodia, we've had the same "democratically elected" prime minister for about 30 years. We know all about voter fraud here, though there are never any "convictions" for it if it's successful. That's kind of the point ;)
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Then how do you know it exists if nobody is ever convicted of a crime that you claim is a problem?

And yes, my comments were directed about US voter fraud convictions.
 
haymarket said:
Then how do you know it exists if nobody is ever convicted of a crime that you claim is a problem?

And yes, my comments were directed about US voter fraud convictions.
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That is a circular argument, particularly within his own context. If there is corruption and the corrupt are committing the voter fraud, it is unlikely that people will be charged, let alone convicted. If your only measure of a problem is whether people are convicted or not, that is a very narrow measurement of a problem.
 
haymarket said:
Then how do you know it exists if nobody is ever convicted of a crime that you claim is a problem?

And yes, my comments were directed about US voter fraud convictions.
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Where did you hear me claim it's a problem here? There is only one man who can run the country without high probability of mass civil unrest, it doesn't bother me if he's elected or not. This is one of the few places where voter fraud is probably a good thing.

I'm also not even saying that killing people for voter fraud is a necessarily a good idea. I joined the thread at a point where people were almost unanimously saying that they don't think the death sentence should be used for relatively victimless crimes, and implying that no one ever died as a result of voter fraud. I'm simply pointing out that many of the worst tyrants in modern history have gained power through voter fraud.

I think it should be taken on a case by case basis, but yes, potentially I think conspiring to seize power from a democratic nation through means of mass fraud should be punishable by death. I'm surprised no one else agrees. I'm usually the one who talks about how bad democracy is. :shock:
 
haymarket said:
So that we can properly gauge this situation, can you tell us the number of actual election fraud convictions in the last election cycle?
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That is irrelevant and off-topic.
 
Those who commit voter fraud are not attacking the opposition party - they are attacking self-government. They undermine confidence in our elections, which means that they undermine the very legitimacy of our self-rule. They are committing a non-kinetic war against the United States of America.

Death Penalty? It certainly seems harsh. I wouldn't rule it out. Voter ID laws would be better - ounce of prevention, pound of cure type thing.
 
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