View Poll Results: Do you support the death penalty for voter fraud?

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  • I'm a Democrat and approve the death penalty for committing voter fraud.

    0 0%
  • I'm a Republican and approve the death penalty for committing voter fraud

    3 3.09%
  • I'm neither a Democrat nor Republican and approve the death penalty for committing voter fraud.

    6 6.19%
  • I'm a Democrat and disapprove the death penalty for committing voter fraud.

    18 18.56%
  • I'm a Republican and disapprove of the death penalty for committing voter fraud.

    12 12.37%
  • I'm neither a Democrat nor Republican and disapprove the death penalty for committing voter fraud.

    58 59.79%
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    Re: Death penalty for voter fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by HumanBeing View Post
    I don't understand why everyone thinks this is so ridiculous. Voter fraud can change the outcome of an election. That can potentially get millions of people killed. It's been going on in parts of Africa for decades. It isn't some victimless, inconsequential crime. It can end up costing lives.
    Right. And they'll introduce the death penalty for it in Africa, when the person that wins is usually the one who has committed the most fraud.
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    Re: Death penalty for voter fraud

    I think that killing people for voter fraud is a little bit extreme. Okay, a LOT extreme.

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    Re: Death penalty for voter fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    So would you support capital punishment for people who commit voter fraud?

    Please explain why or why not.
    So that we can properly gauge this situation, can you tell us the number of actual election fraud convictions in the last election cycle?
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    Re: Death penalty for voter fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    So that we can properly gauge this situation, can you tell us the number of actual election fraud convictions in the last election cycle?
    Do you mean in America? No I can't, I'm not American. I'm in Cambodia, we've had the same "democratically elected" prime minister for about 30 years. We know all about voter fraud here, though there are never any "convictions" for it if it's successful. That's kind of the point
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    Re: Death penalty for voter fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by HumanBeing View Post
    Do you mean in America? No I can't, I'm not American. I'm in Cambodia, we've had the same "democratically elected" prime minister for about 30 years. We know all about voter fraud here, though there are never any "convictions" for it if it's successful. That's kind of the point
    Then how do you know it exists if nobody is ever convicted of a crime that you claim is a problem?

    And yes, my comments were directed about US voter fraud convictions.
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    Re: Death penalty for voter fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Then how do you know it exists if nobody is ever convicted of a crime that you claim is a problem?

    And yes, my comments were directed about US voter fraud convictions.
    That is a circular argument, particularly within his own context. If there is corruption and the corrupt are committing the voter fraud, it is unlikely that people will be charged, let alone convicted. If your only measure of a problem is whether people are convicted or not, that is a very narrow measurement of a problem.

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    Re: Death penalty for voter fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Then how do you know it exists if nobody is ever convicted of a crime that you claim is a problem?

    And yes, my comments were directed about US voter fraud convictions.
    Where did you hear me claim it's a problem here? There is only one man who can run the country without high probability of mass civil unrest, it doesn't bother me if he's elected or not. This is one of the few places where voter fraud is probably a good thing.

    I'm also not even saying that killing people for voter fraud is a necessarily a good idea. I joined the thread at a point where people were almost unanimously saying that they don't think the death sentence should be used for relatively victimless crimes, and implying that no one ever died as a result of voter fraud. I'm simply pointing out that many of the worst tyrants in modern history have gained power through voter fraud.

    I think it should be taken on a case by case basis, but yes, potentially I think conspiring to seize power from a democratic nation through means of mass fraud should be punishable by death. I'm surprised no one else agrees. I'm usually the one who talks about how bad democracy is.
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    Re: Death penalty for voter fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    So would you support capital punishment for people who commit voter fraud?
    no.

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    Please explain why or why not.
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    Re: Death penalty for voter fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    So that we can properly gauge this situation, can you tell us the number of actual election fraud convictions in the last election cycle?
    That is irrelevant and off-topic.

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    Re: Death penalty for voter fraud

    Those who commit voter fraud are not attacking the opposition party - they are attacking self-government. They undermine confidence in our elections, which means that they undermine the very legitimacy of our self-rule. They are committing a non-kinetic war against the United States of America.

    Death Penalty? It certainly seems harsh. I wouldn't rule it out. Voter ID laws would be better - ounce of prevention, pound of cure type thing.

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