View Poll Results: Do you support the death penalty for voter fraud?

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  • I'm a Democrat and approve the death penalty for committing voter fraud.

    0 0%
  • I'm a Republican and approve the death penalty for committing voter fraud

    3 3.09%
  • I'm neither a Democrat nor Republican and approve the death penalty for committing voter fraud.

    6 6.19%
  • I'm a Democrat and disapprove the death penalty for committing voter fraud.

    18 18.56%
  • I'm a Republican and disapprove of the death penalty for committing voter fraud.

    12 12.37%
  • I'm neither a Democrat nor Republican and disapprove the death penalty for committing voter fraud.

    58 59.79%
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Thread: Death penalty for voter fraud

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    Re: Death penalty for voter fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    So would you support capital punishment for people who commit voter fraud?

    Please explain why or why not.


    At a glance, my 1st reaction was "don't be ridiculous".

    Then, I stopped to think a bit.


    All law and government are force, and threat of force. This is a fundamental truth. All legislation is force, because ultimately that is what it is backed by, from capital crimes to traffic tickets force is the means used to make refuseniks comply... and we haven't even mentioned war yet.


    Therefore, voting is force. Yes, it is... it is choosing who will make these decisions on your behalf; chosing who will decide when we as a society collectively apply force and violence.

    Even regulatory decisions can come down to life for death.... like how many parts-per-billion contaminants we allow in drinking water will determine how many sensitive/allergic people may sicken or die from same.

    So in a sense, voter fraud is an unlawful misapplication of governmental force, or at least an attempt to subvert the accepted legal process for determining when where and how we will apply force... which determines who will die and who will live, btw.



    In that sense, it is almost comparable to murder.... at least, in a theoretical fashion.


    But theory and reality are not the same... I'd find it hard to support death for voter fraud unless we're talking about orchestrated mass fraud causing an important election to go awry.
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    Re: Death penalty for voter fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post



    And, as I said before, he made no statement as to the prevalence of the problem
    If there is no problem why would you propose such a drastic solution?
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    Re: Death penalty for voter fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    If there is no problem why would you propose such a drastic solution?
    Did he propose a solution? I thought he asked a question.

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    Re: Death penalty for voter fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by Muhammed View Post
    So would you support capital punishment for people who commit voter fraud?

    Please explain why or why not.
    No more than applying the death penalty for ridiculous internet posts.
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    Re: Death penalty for voter fraud

    Let's raise the bar. How about giving the death penalty for people who throw chewing gum in the mall parking lot?

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    Re: Death penalty for voter fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    I'd find it hard to support death for voter fraud unless we're talking about orchestrated mass fraud causing an important election to go awry.
    What is the purpose of voter fraud, if not to cause elections to go awry and to give power to people who didn't deserve it even by the heinously low ethical standards of democracy?

    I maintain my stance: Voter fraud can end up leading to genocides, famines, and wars. As such, there are most certainly cases where it would be ethically justifiable to shoot someone in the head for engaging in it.
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    Re: Death penalty for voter fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    How did they catch the problem?
    The Board of Elections looks up residency, driver's license, SSN's, date of birth etc. They essentially verify everything that would be verified getting a State ID card or driver's license except they don't require a birth certificate.
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    Re: Death penalty for voter fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    By looking up residency, driver's license, SSN's, date of birth etc. They essentially verify everything that would be verified getting a State ID card or driver's license.
    Well what made them do that? You can't tell me they do that with every voter. Do they?

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    Re: Death penalty for voter fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Well what made them do that? You can't tell me they do that with every voter. Do they?
    They do it with every new voter, yes. You have to go through that process to be put on the voter roster.
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    Re: Death penalty for voter fraud

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    They do it with every new voter, yes.
    What about cases of identity theft? Some claim it's a pretty big problem, when people use dead people's names to get driver's licenses, credit cards, perhaps even to vote?

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