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    re: Institutional Racism [W:344]

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Yes, there if affirmative action and many educational institutions that give priority/positively factor in minority races in regards to accepting applicants. It's not everywhere, but it does exist.
    thats not affirmative action no matter what people call it

    with that said what you are describing does and has happened
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    re: Institutional Racism [W:344]

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Doesn't matter in terms of what we were talking about. You said commercial rap was anti-intellectual.

    No, I wrote " While I agree with this, and the point about it being a symptom and not a cause, I would say commercial rap is pretty comfortable in the anti-intellectual bandwagon, and usually is just mired in various forms of ignorance."

    Which isn't claiming something as exclusive to commercial rap, but that commercial rap is a particularly bad example of it

    I said most genres of commercial music are anti-intellectual.
    of which I do not disagree with.


    You're original point about commercial rap being anti-intellectual is still meaningless since the label can be applied to every commercial genre of music.
    Yes, if we totally ignore the question of degree...

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    re: Institutional Racism [W:344]

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    Close. But I don't think we should just turn a blind eye to race, I think we need to actively stop treating people as if they are different based on where they are from or how much melatonin is in their skin. Its completely double speak to cry about racism and then turn around and advocate for things such as affirmative action. If we believe in equality, then people should be judged as equal and race shouldn't play a factor into getting a job or into a school. Saying one thing and doing another isn't helping anything as far as racism goes.
    Nah, I'm going to have to agree with Dr. King on this one: "A society that has done something special against the Negro for hundreds of years must now do something special for the Negro."

    The fact is that the sort of colorblindness you're advocating isn't really practical if you want to achieve equality. You have to acknowledge that certain races are starting at a disadvantaged position and, in turn, develop means of targeting those race based disadvantages.

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    re: Institutional Racism [W:344]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    No, I wrote " While I agree with this, and the point about it being a symptom and not a cause, I would say commercial rap is pretty comfortable in the anti-intellectual bandwagon, and usually is just mired in various forms of ignorance."

    Which isn't claiming something as exclusive to commercial rap, but that commercial rap is a particularly bad example of it
    It isn't "particular" when compared to other commercial music. Commercial pop, country, alternative and rap are equally anti-intellectual. They're just anti-intellectual in different ways.

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    re: Institutional Racism [W:344]

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Commercial anything is meant to appeal to the lowest common denominator. Hardly any of it - whether pop, country, alternative, et al. - is intellectual. Thus, singling commercial rap out as an anti-intellectual doesn't make any sense.
    not only doesnt it make sense its broken logic. Music/movies etc are meaningless to this topic, their impact secondary
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    re: Institutional Racism [W:344]

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    It isn't "particular" when compared to other commercial music. Commercial pop, country, alternative and rap are equally anti-intellectual. They're just anti-intellectual in different ways.
    I don't see how. Could you define "anti-intellectual" please? And again, do you regard jazz and classical music as "anti-intellectual"?

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    re: Institutional Racism [W:344]

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    It isn't "particular" when compared to other commercial music. Commercial pop, country, alternative and rap are equally anti-intellectual. They're just anti-intellectual in different ways.
    Yes, as you can see, the degree of ignorance and stupidity expressed in it far surpasses anything you will find in commercial pop music or country
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    re: Institutional Racism [W:344]

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Those schools are failing because the people who go there don't care about getting an education. It's not the school that's at fault, it's the students and their parents.
    I agree for the most part. I do think, however, that schools are way too concerned about pupil census. After a child hits 16? If they're complete disruptions to students and classrooms? Throw their asses out into the street. But, of course, schools don't do that because it costs them money. So every student suffers because of what amounts to a relative few -- setting poor examples, making fun of "nerds," making school hallways unsafe, the walk to-and-from a challenge.

    In that way, I blame school administration. The teachers? They're probably sick of their jobs. I would be if I was trying to teach, entered the profession with ideals, and found I was babysitting majority fails.
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    re: Institutional Racism [W:344]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    dont only doesnt it make sense its broken logic. Music/movies etc are meaningless to this topic, their impact secondary
    If you go back and read my original post, I make clear that I agree that it's a symptom and not a cause.

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    re: Institutional Racism [W:344]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    If you go back and read my original post, I make clear that I agree that it's a symptom and not a cause.
    I read that it doesnt have an impact to what i said
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