View Poll Results: Does institutional racism currently exist in America?

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    Re: Institutional Racism [W:344]

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    in essence...the employer is forced to reach out and put plans in place to increase the pool of qualified minority applicants in order to hire them on a non-discriminatory basis.
    nope wrong again as the link proves

    in "essence" the employer is already supposed to be reaching out and making plans to be as diverse as possible with qualified people PERIOD.

    it may be white, old, young, black, people with disabilities etc.

    Minority is NOT the only requirement and focusing on it is what makes all these arguments fail.

    its to hire ALL PEOPLE on a non-discriminatory practice.
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    Re: Institutional Racism [W:344]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    nope wrong again as the link proves

    in "essence" the employer is already supposed to be reaching out and making plans to be as diverse as possible with qualified people PERIOD.

    it may be white, old, young, black, people with disabilities etc.

    Minority is NOT the only requirement and focusing on it is what makes all these arguments fail.

    its to hire ALL PEOPLE on a non-discriminatory practice.
    bull....read your own link. it clearly specifies reaching out to minorities and females if the pool of qualified workers is not sufficiently representative
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    Re: Institutional Racism [W:344]

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    bull....read your own link. it clearly specifies reaching out to minorities and females if the pool of qualified workers is not sufficiently representative
    and whites, and age and those with disabilities etc etc etc you

    ive read and am required to know it for work

    and the order you brought up still refers to government jobs not private/public

    facts simply disagree with you and prove you wrong, you fail again
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    Re: Institutional Racism [W:344]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) nope didnt ignore it at all, making stuff up wont help your case LMAO
    2.) no you simply misunderstand it and again you are factually wrong


    sorry also the particular order you brought up is the one i deal with directly because its baout GOVERNMENT and GOVERNMENT contractors. Thats exactly what i do.

    a company would be in violation or under go review if they local population was 50% black and 50 white, 20% WOMEN (NOT JUST MINORITIES) and the most important part they were all QUALIFIED if it could be proven my company didnt INTERVIEW or REACH OUT TO about those same amounts.

    But if i did interview them matching about those same amounts and no wrong doings could be proven with my hiring process its would be fine, there are factually no quotas or force to make the workforce match.

    Sorry again facts disagree with you

    http://www.dol.gov/ofccp/regs/compliance/aa.htm
    Do you not see the writing between the lines?

    If the employer does not have a representative workforce, they must spend extra money to try to achieve that goal. It becomes an unwritten quota system, because it is easier to just use quotas.

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    Re: Institutional Racism [W:344]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Do you not see the writing between the lines?

    If the employer does not have a representative workforce, they must spend extra money to try to achieve that goal. It becomes an unwritten quota system, because it is easier to just use quotas.
    No i dont see the made up conspiracy theory because its factually not true.

    Like i said i have to directly deal with this stuff at work, there is no quotas and our workforce demographics definitely do not match the local demographics. Neither do the demographics at our HQ.
    My company does government contracting so we are under more scrutiny then anybody and nothing ever happens to us.

    WHy? because we practice AA/EO. We have been audited, our HQ was even investigated because someone ATTEMPTED to say we werent practicing AA/EO. We won, they lost because we do practice it.

    SOrry i simply cant ignore facts and use fantasy and conspiracy theories.

    ANy company using qoutas are morons because thats no easier and one they decided to use qoutas they are breaking the law and not practicing AA/EO.
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    Re: Institutional Racism [W:344]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    No i dont see the made up conspiracy theory because its factually not true.

    Like i said i have to directly deal with this stuff at work, there is no quotas and our workforce demographics definitely do not match the local demographics. Neither do the demographics at our HQ.
    My company does government contracting so we are under more scrutiny then anybody and nothing ever happens to us.

    WHy? because we practice AA/EO. We have been audited, our HQ was even investigated because someone ATTEMPTED to say we werent practicing AA/EO. We won, they lost because we do practice it.

    SOrry i simply cant ignore facts and use fantasy and conspiracy theories.

    ANy company using qoutas are morons because thats no easier and one they decided to use qoutas they are breaking the law and not practicing AA/EO.
    There is obviously something about this issue which is very personal to you, which is creating a debilitatingly blind, biased perspective.

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    Re: Institutional Racism [W:344]

    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge=power View Post
    There is obviously something about this issue which is very personal to you, which is creating a debilitatingly blind, biased perspective.
    he's a minority. of course he doesn't see anything wrong with a policy that gives minorities an advantage. so he will defend/deny to his last breath that such a policy exists. Hell...I wouldn't complain about a policy that forced the NFL and NBA to hire old white guys and pay them millions of $$$$
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    Re: Institutional Racism [W:344]

    Mostly no. It's typically cultural discrimination which has its place to a degree.

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    Re: Institutional Racism [W:344]

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    he's a minority. of course he doesn't see anything wrong with a policy that gives minorities an advantage. so he will defend/deny to his last breath that such a policy exists. Hell...I wouldn't complain about a policy that forced the NFL and NBA to hire old white guys and pay them millions of $$$$
    I knew that was the case

    I saw a segment on ESPN the other day in which the MLB has a guy who monitors the amount of black players in the sport. I don't remember his exact title, but it was something with the word 'Diversity' in it. He was going on about how there aren't enough blacks playing baseball. They then showed the stats for how many blacks play in the NBA (79%) and the NFL (74%). Needless to say, neither of those organizations has hired anyone to monitor the amount of whites in the sport

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    Re: Institutional Racism [W:344]

    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge=power View Post
    There is obviously something about this issue which is very personal to you, which is creating a debilitatingly blind, biased perspective.
    nope

    just a secondary part of my job and i cant ignore facts based on fantasy, hyperbole and opinion.

    Are there facts you would like to bring to the table that support your failed arguments?

    Facts:
    qoutas are illegal
    government does not force your workforce demographics to match the population
    any company using qoutas is not practicing AA/EO

    please feel free to prove any of this wrong
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