View Poll Results: Does institutional racism currently exist in America?

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  • Yes, and it is rampant.

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  • Yes, in quite a few places, but not everywhere.

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  • For the most part, no. It exists but is rare.

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    re: Institutional Racism [W:344]

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    so you ignore executive order 11246? must be nice



    the mandate clearly states that the employer must have a representative work force. it does not say that they must provide equal opportunity...it states that they must have a representative workforce
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    re: Institutional Racism [W:344]

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    1.)so you ignore executive order 11246? must be nice



    the mandate clearly states that the employer must have a representative work force. it does not say that they must provide equal opportunity...it states that they must have a representative workforce
    1.) nope didnt ignore it at all, making stuff up wont help your case LMAO
    2.) no you simply misunderstand it and again you are factually wrong
    all hiring and advancement decisions are based on individual qualifications and merit, but recruitment and development programs are structured such that high-quality candidates are available to help achieve a representative workforce."
    sorry also the particular order you brought up is the one i deal with directly because its baout GOVERNMENT and GOVERNMENT contractors. Thats exactly what i do.

    a company would be in violation or under go review if they local population was 50% black and 50 white, 20% WOMEN (NOT JUST MINORITIES) and the most important part they were all QUALIFIED if it could be proven my company didnt INTERVIEW or REACH OUT TO about those same amounts.

    But if i did interview them matching about those same amounts and no wrong doings could be proven with my hiring process its would be fine, there are factually no quotas or force to make the workforce match.

    Sorry again facts disagree with you

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    re: Institutional Racism [W:344]

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Don't bother arguing with him too much. You have given good sources for us, the audience, to get enough information to affect our opinion. Judging from his post, present and past, he regularly demonstrates a love of ignorance and an unwillingness to consider facts and data contrary to his preconceived prejudice. This and the rather immaturity demonstrated in the way he quite often posts, just accept that he is a boy who doesn't yet have the experience to open his mind to reality or other views. Just treat him like a kid and try to provide him with a means of gaining knowledge (not that he will use it, but give it anyways), don't argue with him like he was a rational man.
    Translation: you have nothing so you resorted to failed lies, insults and being uncivil

    i have facts and you have opinion

    there have been ZERO facts presented to go against the facts i stated, and lying about that wont change anything.

    Let me know when you have any facts to support your false claims and are ready to stay on topic
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    re: Institutional Racism [W:344]

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    Re: Institutional Racism [W:344]

    from your link

    Based on the utilization analyses under Executive Order 11246 and the availability of qualified individuals, the contractors establish goals to reduce or overcome the under-utilization. Good faith efforts may include expanded efforts in outreach, recruitment, training and other activities to increase the pool of qualified minorities and females
    The female goal of 6.9 percent was extended indefinitely in 1980 and remains in effect today. Construction contractors are not required to develop written affirmative action programs. The regulations enumerate the good faith steps construction contractors must take in order to increase the utilization of minorities and women in the skilled trades.
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    Re: Institutional Racism [W:344]

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    from your link
    exactly, thanks you! LMAO

    again government not public and its based on availability, qualification etc

    notice the words OUTREACH, increase POOLS

    NOT forced hiring
    NOT quotas
    simply a matter of you not understanding what you are reading.
    Like is i said i deal with these rules, i know what they mean and i have too


    wish i could post the all the info
    thanks
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    Re: Institutional Racism [W:344]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    Translation: you have nothing so you resorted to failed lies, insults and being uncivil

    i have facts and you have opinion

    there have been ZERO facts presented to go against the facts i stated, and lying about that wont change anything.

    Let me know when you have any facts to support your false claims and are ready to stay on topic
    No. Translation. I was not talking to you. I was giving someone else advice from what I have learned from experience in the hope that they will learn from my experience. Actually has nothing to do with your arguments on this subject. I have let you lead me too far in arguments before, and I would advice other not to let themselves also be lead too far.
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    Re: Institutional Racism [W:344]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    exactly, thanks you! LMAO

    again government not public and its based on availability, qualification etc

    notice the words OUTREACH, increase POOLS

    NOT forced hiring
    NOT quotas
    simply a matter of you not understanding what you are reading.
    Like is i said i deal with these rules, i know what they mean and i have too


    wish i could post the all the info
    thanks
    in essence...the employer is forced to reach out and put plans in place to increase the pool of qualified minority applicants in order to hire them on a non-discriminatory basis.
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    Re: Institutional Racism [W:344]

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Does institutional racism currently exist in America?
    It would be foolish to say there isn't.
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    Re: Institutional Racism [W:344]

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    No. Translation. I was not talking to you. I was giving someone else advice from what I have learned from experience in the hope that they will learn from my experience. Actually has nothing to do with your arguments on this subject. I have let you lead me too far in arguments before, and I would advice other not to let themselves also be lead too far.
    translation: you STILL have zero facts to support your arguments while i have presented facts

    let me know when you do
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