View Poll Results: Does institutional racism currently exist in America?

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    re: Institutional Racism [W:344]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
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    You to, please read up on what AA/EO actually is, you learn alot.

    Dont buy into the hyperbole and lies, just becasue some idiot says they hired someone based on AA/EO doesnt make it true lol
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    re: Institutional Racism [W:344]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    they dont do that
    AA/EO is about equal OPPORTUNITY
    not employment or hiring

    now if a company is found guilty of wrong doings then they may be forced to diversify but only after they are already breaking the law
    One leads to the other don't you think? If two applicants have the same OPPORTUNITY and the same qualifications but the white cantidate is chosen, then racism will be charged.

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    re: Institutional Racism [W:344]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    oh goodness gracious, I know you dont fully understand AA/EO but do you not know how it works and what it does at all?

    In the US AA refers to equal opportunity employment measures. This measures help prevent discriminating against employees on the basis of race, sex, creed, religion, color, or national origin. ALso five more recent statutes have listed other traits as "protected classes:
    The Age Discrimination Act has protected those aged 40 and over
    The Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 protects individuals who possess, or are thought to possess, a wide range of disabilities, ranging from paraplegia to Down Syndrome to autism.
    The Genetic Information Nondiscrimination Act of 2008 forbids discrimination on the basis of family history and genetic information.[5]
    The Vietnam Era Veterans Readjustment Assistance Act of 1974 forbids discrimination on the grounds of a worker's military history, including any effects that the battlefield might have had on the worker's psyche.
    Twelve states, over one hundred local governments, and the District of Columbia[6] have passed statutes that forbid discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation; also, the Employment Non-Discrimination Act would allegedly make sexuality a protected class, but this bill has yet to pass Congress.

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    I know this is hypotrhetical but,

    what do you think would happen if a black rapper was interviewing for 5 back up dancers and 20 White guys auditions and 5 black guys. Who do you think would get the job?

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    re: Institutional Racism [W:344]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    I know this is hypotrhetical but,

    what do you think would happen if a black rapper was interviewing for 5 back up dancers and 20 White guys auditions and 5 black guys. Who do you think would get the job?
    Not sure if that is a good parallel. Because you also have to look at the odds of which individuals will have the skill sets the rapper is looking for. Even if you could film each one and digitally eliminate all racial traits, the 5 black guys might still have the superior skills. Yet that would still appear as if race was the preference.

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    re: Institutional Racism [W:344]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    no it doesnt "allow" that
    it doesnt allow anything
    if it doesn't allow anything...then why does it exist?

    face it, brah... AA allows a minority applicant to be hired if he is qualified for the job, even though there may be better qualified non-minority applicants. A minority doesn't have to be the best...he just has to be qualified.
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    re: Institutional Racism [W:344]

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    Not sure if that is a good parallel. Because you also have to look at the odds of which individuals will have the skill sets the rapper is looking for. Even if you could film each one and digitally eliminate all racial traits, the 5 black guys might still have the superior skills. Yet that would still appear as if race was the preference.
    We are assuming they are each equally qualified.

    Blacks do not inherently dance better tan whites.

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    re: Institutional Racism [W:344]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    Most of the time prosecuted illegal discrimination is verified by testing the suspect company by having several candidates of different races (or other types of groups) with histories that are equal, or the minority person is more qualified, apply for the same jobs, loans etc. That provides proof that the company discriminates by race rather than any other objective criteria.
    And what is the most common outcome?

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    re: Institutional Racism [W:344]

    Of course it does. It's called Affirmative Action.
    Only a fool measures equality by results and not opportunities.

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    re: Institutional Racism [W:344]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    We are assuming they are each equally qualified.

    Blacks do not inherently dance better tan whites.
    Inherently, no. But you have to admit that the odds will be against the whites, at least as far as the music video style will go. Even so, depending on the theme of the video/song (they don't always seem to match) the blacks might still have the advantage simply because of the look the video producer is looking for.

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    re: Institutional Racism [W:344]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    One leads to the other don't you think? If two applicants have the same OPPORTUNITY and the same qualifications but the white candidate is chosen, then racism will be charged.
    only on tv and in hyperbolic opinion

    in reality while false racism charges do exist they arent rampant and if AA/EO is being practiced they are meaningless. How do the two candidates now they were 100% equal again? and how often are two candidates 100% equal?

    the safest way is to practice AA/EO and not to practice unfair hiring practices
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