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    re: Institutional Racism [W:344]

    When I owned a small company I had 3 employees. A 20 something white girl, a 75 year old jewish man and when I hired the next employee it was a latina girl. I never thought of their race or gender in hiring them, I was interested in their penmenship and their intelligence.

    When I set out to hire somebody else the cantidates would come in and fill out the applications. The only one I saw was a black girl as I walked in the front door. After she left I looked at her application and the question asked if she spoke a second language. She marked yes and put English. I wonder what her first language was? I didn't even consider her as a cantidate. If she can't fill out an application correctly, I wouldn't expect her to be able to do anything else correctly.

    Does that make me racist?

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    re: Institutional Racism [W:344]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    1.) No, when you have to give a specific race or minority a certain advantage that others don't have, that is unfair and this practice should be ended.
    2.) The only thing that should be taken into consideration is someone's merit.
    3.)Colleges should be blind to the color of an applicant's skin, and so should businesses.
    4.)AA only perpetuates racism.
    1.) I agree 100% , good thing AA/EO factually does not do that
    2.) i agree
    3.) I agree
    4.) 100% false, by definition that impossible

    again you simply dont understand what AA/EO actually is
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    re: Institutional Racism [W:344]

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    actually that is exactly whata AA does. it doesn't lower any standards, but it does allow an employer to hire a minority over an equally qualified white. with minority status being the determining factor.
    no it doesnt "allow" that
    it doesnt allow anything
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    re: Institutional Racism [W:344]

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    If quotas are ilegal then how can the government tell a private business that a certain percentage of his workforce has to be a minority?
    they dont do that
    AA/EO is about equal OPPORTUNITY
    not employment or hiring

    now if a company is found guilty of wrong doings then they may be forced to diversify but only after they are already breaking the law
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    re: Institutional Racism [W:344]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    No.

    Chris is correct on this one. Only in recent years have the court cases started disassembling the quota system.
    recent years? you mean in 1978 when qoutas were outlawed

    sorry maybe tyou should read the thread and OP, it ask about CURRENT times 1977 isnt exactly current times

    like i said facts already prove her statement false
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    re: Institutional Racism [W:344]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) I agree 100% , good thing AA/EO factually does not do that
    2.) i agree
    3.) I agree
    4.) 100% false, by definition that impossible

    again you simply dont understand what AA/EO actually is
    It does though. Inadvertently that is exactly what it does. Like others have said, not to say the original intentions weren't good, but there have been unintended consequences.

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    re: Institutional Racism [W:344]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    recent years? you mean in 1978 when qoutas were outlawed

    sorry maybe tyou should read the thread and OP, it ask about CURRENT times 1977 isnt exactly current times

    like i said facts already prove her statement false
    My point is, it still continues to happen. There have been recent court cases since that era. the law is written OK, but when an activist group see something they don't like, they complain. It's bad for business. Quotas, to some degree, then end up being forced anyway.

    Do you seriously think the items we hear in the news of such racial inequity in employment doesn't have an effect, caused by fear of being the next target?

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    re: Institutional Racism [W:344]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    It does though. Inadvertently that is exactly what it does. Like others have said, not to say the original intentions weren't good, but there have been unintended consequences.
    sigh
    and inadvertently there are cops that break the law to enforce the law. That doesnt make it law enforcement.

    anybody inadvertently using qoutas is factually not practicing AA/EO, this isnt a hard concept.
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    re: Institutional Racism [W:344]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    sigh
    and inadvertently there are cops that break the law to enforce the law. That doesnt make it law enforcement.

    anybody inadvertently using qoutas is factually not practicing AA/EO, this isnt a hard concept.
    The point is that AA inadvertently encourages such practices. Are you denying that?

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    re: Institutional Racism [W:344]

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post

    1.)My point is, it still continues to happen.
    2.)There have been recent court cases since that era. the law is written OK, but when an activist group see something they don't like, they complain.
    3.) It's bad for business.
    4.) Quotas, to some degree, then end up being forced anyway.
    5.) Do you seriously think the items we hear in the news of such racial inequity in employment doesn't have an effect, caused by fear of being the next target?
    1.) yes i agree some people do practice unfiar hiring processes and that is NOT AA/EO its thier own made up system
    2.) correct, why were there court cases? because they were breaking the law and they were not practicing AA/EO
    3.) no its not bad for business, its bad for those stupid enough to break the law
    4.) no they are not
    5.) im sure it does, stupid people are effected by lots of things

    just to be clear on the facts im pointing out

    im not denying some people use race to do hiring and they "CALL IT" AA/EO. This in deed does happen.

    But the fact remains is as soon as they do that they are not practicing AA/EO.
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