View Poll Results: Does institutional racism currently exist in America?

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  • Yes, and it is rampant.

    14 22.95%
  • Yes, in quite a few places, but not everywhere.

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  • For the most part, no. It exists but is rare.

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    re: Institutional Racism [W:344]

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    Yes, affirmative actions is institutionalized racism.
    Agreed. When a specific race is given advantages that others don't get, I would call that institutionalized racism against every other race that doesn't get those kind of breaks.

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    re: Institutional Racism [W:344]

    Quote Originally Posted by maquiscat View Post
    Not what I was saying, but I'll go with not presenting my point well. Basically, I'm trying to point out that the culture (vice the genre) has more negative influence (or elements if you prefer) than positive and is a contributor to holding back blacks and encouraging them not to try to be successful
    Hip-hop culture is far too diverse in its participants, art forms, attitudes and other elements to make such a statement. There are parts of hip-hop culture that hinder the types of success that are valued by mainstream society, yes. However, there are also parts that facilitate such success - they're just less sensational and thus, less covered by media and paid for by record execs, clothing companies and other corporations.

    Ah now that brings more information to light. I believe that there are quite a few "conservative" post high school educational facilities around that the "right" is quite alright with. I would not call being against a liberal based higher education as being against higher education in general, which is what your first comment implied.
    Correction: They aren't against "liberal based higher education." They are against higher education that doesn't advance right wing principles. That is a large difference.

    Also, if you're going to use the reality that such conservatives are fine with certain types of higher education as evidence that my point about conservatives not valuing education is incorrect, then I suppose we should also conclude that your assertion about hip-hop/rap culture shunning learning is incorrect since the part of that culture you were referring to, in truth, on shuns certain types of learning - not all learning.

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    re: Institutional Racism [W:344]

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    Superficial music superfically represents society.
    You're not making any sense. You're confusing the content of a song with the place that song occupies in society.

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    re: Institutional Racism [W:344]

    Quote Originally Posted by Rainman05 View Post
    Yes, affirmative actions is institutionalized racism.
    by definition of what AA/EO is thats factually impossible
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    re: Institutional Racism [W:344]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Agreed. When a specific race is given advantages that others don't get, I would call that institutionalized racism against every other race that doesn't get those kind of breaks.
    thats not what AA/EO is.
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    re: Institutional Racism [W:344]

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    You're not making any sense. You're confusing the content of a song with the place that song occupies in society.
    I'm saying, a song that is meant to be understood at a superficial level only represents society at that superficial level. Otherwise, it's just a personal interpretation, and probably one that is more a reflection on the interpreter then on society itself.

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    re: Institutional Racism [W:344]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    thats not what AA/EO is.
    Yes it is. Affirmative action is nothing more than meeting a quota.

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    re: Institutional Racism [W:344]

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    Yes it is. Affirmative action is nothing more than meeting a quota.
    100% false

    Quotas are illegal


    You are simply mistaken and dont know what AA/EO actually is.
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    re: Institutional Racism [W:344]

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    100% false

    Quotas are illegal


    You are simply mistaken and dont know what AA/EO actually is.
    Affirmative action is all about meeting a quota. IT is no longer necessary. Employers HAVE to hire a certain number of minorities, especially in the construction industry.

    Affirmative Action: Twenty-five Years of Controversy

    Time has not quelled controversy over policies of preferential treatment. First instituted in the 1960s and 1970s by employers and educational institutions in response to pressures from civil rights groups, federal legislation, and court rulings, preferential treatment programs seek to rectify the effects of past and ongoing discrimination against women and racial minorities. These programs are designed as temporary measures to increase the employment and educational opportunities available to qualified women and minorities by giving them preference in hiring, promotion, and admission. Toward this goal, some firms and institutions aggressively recruit minorities and women, others set numerical targets and timetables to raise the level of minority and female representation, and still others establish quotas to hire or admit a specified number of minority and female candidates.

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    re: Institutional Racism [W:344]

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    When you don't care what happens to a group of people who are different from you, it is a form of bigotry, even if you say "I'm not a racist, but....." before you defend a practice that primarily hurts that particular group.
    you said that they 'don't know or care about. People can "not know and care about" other individuals for any numbers of reasons beyond race.

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