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    Re: Revisit - Tax Reform

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    When I was working I spent ~$20/week on lunch. Now, $60/week is more than what my wife and I each spend for all our food and various household items from the store. We budget ~$100/week for both of us for groceries and cleaning supplies.
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    Re: Revisit - Tax Reform

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Would you mind putting the "quote" into full context? When you do, you'll find it takes on a whole new meaning...
    It won't change a thing. You either have $100 a month to blow or you don't. A huge portion of the population doesn't make the kind of money where $100/mo is insignificant.
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    Re: Revisit - Tax Reform

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Different strokes for different folks.
    I personally don't care what you blow your money on. I preferred investing all I could in a house and reliable cars. When I was younger, I gave up eating out at lunch for a year just so I could afford a computer. Later, that paid off because my computer skills were important for my job.
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    Re: Revisit - Tax Reform

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    It won't change a thing. You either have $100 a month to blow or you don't. A huge portion of the population doesn't make the kind of money where $100/mo is insignificant.
    No, context is important. I try not to cherry pick words from a response to make some point, but you don't seem to have a problem doing so.

    To paraphrase myself, what was posted was that in the overall scheme of raising a child, $100/month was chicken feed.

    That's why context matters and not selectively choosing the words you want to make a point...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Revisit - Tax Reform

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    I personally don't care what you blow your money on. I preferred investing all I could in a house and reliable cars. When I was younger, I gave up eating out at lunch for a year just so I could afford a computer. Later, that paid off because my computer skills were important for my job.
    That's fine. This exchange need not be hostile. I have the house I want, the cars I want and a family that is a blessing.
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    Re: Revisit - Tax Reform

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    No, context is important. I try not to cherry pick words from a response to make some point, but you don't seem to have a problem doing so.

    To paraphrase myself, what was posted was that in the overall scheme of raising a child, $100/month was chicken feed.

    That's why context matters and not selectively choosing the words you want to make a point...
    That doesn't change a thing, just as I said. You either have $100/mo to blow and it really is "chicken feed" or you don't have $100/mo to blow, which means you're probably poor.
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    Re: Revisit - Tax Reform

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    That doesn't change a thing, just as I said. You either have $100/mo to blow and it really is "chicken feed" or you don't have $100/mo to blow.
    A bit dense on context?
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Revisit - Tax Reform

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    A bit dense on context?
    Not at all. I've raised a child through adulthood and I've had a budget for several decades. I know what $100/mo meant to me at one time and what it means now. My conclusion is that you're either sloppy in your lifestyle/accounting and need the extra slack to avoid tragedy or you don't follow a budget very well.
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    Re: Revisit - Tax Reform

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    That's not going to happen. Well, speaking realistically none of it's likely to happen, but that's even less likely. We're not going to say as a country "Yeah, we don't care if you have kids, we don't care about the cost of raising them when factoring in your taxes". If the deduction was fixed and didn't scale to family size, it would be large enough to account for at least whatever the average number of kids people have is.
    Speaking realistically, kids should not be a right, it should be a privilege for only those who are wealthy enough to provide for them until they are able to enter the market and take care of themselves. Those who have kids and are not able to provide for them without government assistance or tax relief should instead be fined. This will send a clear message that the market no longer tolerates this inefficiency.

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    Re: Revisit - Tax Reform

    Quote Originally Posted by kenc View Post
    Speaking realistically, kids should not be a right, it should be a privilege for only those who are wealthy enough to provide for them until they are able to enter the market and take care of themselves. Those who have kids and are not able to provide for them without government assistance or tax relief should instead be fined. This will send a clear message that the market no longer tolerates this inefficiency.
    You are... well, I wouldn't say the worst sock puppet ever, but you're reaching for it. If you are going to try to make conservatives look bad, you should at least learn to speak from their actual concerns, and with their actual propositions. Government intervention in fining people for providing a public good?



    AlabamaPaul - I am currently raising three children on an E-5 salary in the military. If you don't need your $300 a month, I can think of more than a few helpful places I could put it for you

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