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Thread: Constitutional Amendment Making Voting A Right

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    Re: Constitutional Amendment Making Voting A Right

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic Now! View Post
    What if they commit their crime with a gigantic piece of paper?
    Still can vote and purchase a gun.

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    Re: Constitutional Amendment Making Voting A Right

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Still can vote and purchase a gun.
    How can they vote if they can't use giant pieces of paper? Think man!
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    Re: Constitutional Amendment Making Voting A Right

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Since when are judges elected?
    Governor or Legislative Appointment: In 4 states, judges are appointed by the
    governor or (in South Carolina and Virginia) the legislature. Gubernatorial appointments
    usually require the consent of the upper house of the legislature or the participation of a special commission such as an executive council. In most of these states, judges serve a term (ranging from 6 to 14 years) and then may be reappointed in the same manner. In Massachusetts, New Hampshire, and Rhode Island, judges enjoy lifetime or near-lifetime tenure.


    Merit Plan: In 23 states, judges are nominated by a nonpartisan commission, and

    then appointed by the governor. Judges serve a term and then are subject to a retention election, where they run alone, and voters can either approve another term or vote against them. Terms vary but on the whole are less than those in appointment states.



    Nonpartisan Election: In 15 states, judges run for election. Their political
    affiliations are not listed on the ballot, and so voters, unless specifically informed, do not know a candidate's political party. These judges serve a term and then may run for
    reelection. The terms range from 6 to 10 years.


    Partisan Election: In 8 states, judges run for election as a member of a political
    party. They serve a term in the range of 6 to 10 years for the most part and then may run for reelection.

    Are state judges appointed or elected
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    Re: Constitutional Amendment Making Voting A Right

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    No. No need for it and there are other amendments that have been waiting in the wings for decades that deserve our attention.
    ????? Not aware of any serious amendment waiting in the wings ?????

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    Re: Constitutional Amendment Making Voting A Right

    Quote Originally Posted by yobarnacle View Post
    Governor or Legislative Appointment:
    Right, an appointment, not an election. Your typical convict doesn't take office to be able to make appointments.

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    Re: Constitutional Amendment Making Voting A Right

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    There's not one mention of voting or the right to vote in any of that.
    The opposite is true.

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    Re: Constitutional Amendment Making Voting A Right

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    There are many people who don't realize that voting is NOT a right granted by the U.S. Constitution. Would you support such an amendment?

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    Here is what is being proposed by two Democratic representatives:

    A pair of Democratic congressmen is pushing an amendment that would place an affirmative right to vote in the U.S. Constitution. According to Rep. Mark Pocan (D-WI), who is sponsoring the legislation along with Rep. Keith Ellison (D-MN), the amendment would protect voters from what he described as a “systematic” push to “restrict voting access” through voter ID laws, shorter early voting deadlines, and other measures that are being proposed in many states.


    “Most people believe that there already is something in the Constitution that gives people the right to vote, but unfortunately … there is no affirmative right to vote in the Constitution. We have a number of amendments that protect against discrimination in voting, but we don’t have an affirmative right,” Pocan told TPM last week. “Especially in an era … you know, in the last decade especially we’ve just seen a number of these measures to restrict access to voting rights in so many states. … There’s just so many of these that are out there, that it shows the real need that we have.”


    The brief amendment would stipulate that “every citizen of the United States, who is of legal voting age, shall have the fundamental right to vote in any public election held in the jurisdiction in which the citizen resides.” It would also give Congress “the power to enforce and implement this article by appropriate legislation.”

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    Congressmen Propose Constitutional Amendment To Block Voting Rights Challenges | TPMDC
    If this were reallly about rights I would support it. It seems more like trying to sidestep voter ID laws, which I think we should have.

    What person in the 2013 doesn't have an ID of some sort, and can't go get a free one? (ID should be free if you want to vote but can prove you can't afford it.)

    There's really no excuse.

    If their motives were better I'd support it.

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    Re: Constitutional Amendment Making Voting A Right

    Quote Originally Posted by Republic Now! View Post
    And the amendment would make it even worse by validating the notion that voting is a privilege instead of a responsibility.
    No, that would be making it.................a right.

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    Re: Constitutional Amendment Making Voting A Right

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    No, that would be making it.................a right.
    Yes, good job. You've identified the law of identity. Now, I'm going a step further and looking at what attitude towards voting is validated by such an action and therefore how voting shall be viewed. There's a segment of the population which views voting as a privilege, and by making it a right, we are validating that viewpoint.
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    Re: Constitutional Amendment Making Voting A Right

    Because of the absurdity and callousness that I see so often here, let me add my own:

    I say we should have a voting rights amendment and even move toward direct democracy where we don't just elect representatives, we also vote directly on the laws they propose. Here's the catch: voting with ballots is not "the American way" and we should vote with our dollars. Example, you vote for your choice for president or other representatives, and whoever gets the most money wins the election. Everyone who participated in the race keeps their money. As for laws, our elected representatives propose laws and the nation votes with their dollars for the law or against it. Yes, corporations can vote because corporations are people too! If more money flows against it the law isn't passed, and if more money flows for it then the law is passed. Either way the government keeps all the money, and because this process will generate a buttload of cash, it will no longer have to tax anything. Think about it, no more taxes!

    There are many side benefits to this as well. No indirect lobbying which doesn't represent the people. The system doesn't change that much in reality, as money still would drive the government, but now it gets funded by the people democratically vying for their wishes. It would also have the benefit of those with more money get more say in the government. If poor people don't like that, they just have to get rich. It's not that hard in the US, anyone can get rich if they want to. It's the ultimate in modern democracy!

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