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Thread: Constitutional Amendment Making Voting A Right

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    Re: Constitutional Amendment Making Voting A Right

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Yes it is. Here's the thread title: "Would you support a voting rights amendment?"

    See? You're in the wrong thread.

    I guess you aren't able to fathom the fact that many liberals support restoring rights when the restoration helps the deems



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    Re: Constitutional Amendment Making Voting A Right

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    Ex-convicts, and I wasn't aware that this was my personal crusade until...oh, fifteen seconds ago.
    Yeah, well look how long you've been focusing on this one aspect. This isn't about ex-convicts.
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    Re: Constitutional Amendment Making Voting A Right

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    For who? The ex-convicts, the communities or the states?
    I am not aware of any problems for ex-convicts, the communities or the state when convicted felons are allowed to vote in those communities or states. six towns in Maryland allow non-citizens to vote and New York City may be next and I am not aware of any problems they have had either (City Council weighing bill that gives noncitizen immigrants right to vote - NY Daily News)

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    Re: Constitutional Amendment Making Voting A Right

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I guess you aren't able to fathom the fact that many liberals support restoring rights when the restoration helps the deems
    And I guess you aren't able to fathom a thread that isn't about guns.

    Not my problem.

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    Re: Constitutional Amendment Making Voting A Right

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I guess you aren't able to fathom the fact that many liberals support restoring rights when the restoration helps the deems
    Same reason they don't want anyone to require an ID, it's hurts their chances of getting elected.
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    Re: Constitutional Amendment Making Voting A Right

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    I am not aware of any problems for ex-convicts, the communities or the state when convicted felons are allowed to vote in those communities or states. six towns in Maryland allow non-citizens to vote and New York City may be next and I am not aware of any problems they have had either (City Council weighing bill that gives noncitizen immigrants right to vote - NY Daily News)
    The People's Republic of Maryland is full of freaks anyway.
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    Re: Constitutional Amendment Making Voting A Right

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    no its not. I want to see if those who want criminals to vote (mainly because-according to Stanford Law Professor Pamela Karlan-criminals vote in huge proportions for democrats) are also willing to extend to them other rights they lose after convictions
    Does the world really need more Notaries Public?

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    Re: Constitutional Amendment Making Voting A Right

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal View Post
    What rationale is there for not allowing people who've served their time to vote again? If they're released back as citizens, they should be able to participate as citizens.
    When you commit a felony, losing right to vote, losing right to own a gun, losing right to hold public office, all are PART of the punishment.
    If those rights are precious to you, don't do the crime!
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    Re: Constitutional Amendment Making Voting A Right

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    I am not aware of any problems for ex-convicts, the communities or the state when convicted felons are allowed to vote in those communities or states.
    I assume you mean ex-convicts? That's good, and not entirely surprising.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    six towns in Maryland allow non-citizens to vote and New York City may be next and I am not aware of any problems they have had either (City Council weighing bill that gives noncitizen immigrants right to vote - NY Daily News)
    What a mess, and a dilemma: If they pay taxes that go to services that help us all, but aren't American's on paper, do they still get the right to participate in the political process?

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    Re: Constitutional Amendment Making Voting A Right

    Quote Originally Posted by yobarnacle View Post
    When you commit a felony, losing right to vote, losing right to own a gun, losing right to hold public office, all are PART of the punishment.
    If those rights are precious to you, don't do the crime!
    Losing your ability to participate in the system that you live in, even after you've served your time, can be argued to be cruel and unusual, excessive at the very least. In any case it's an emotional argument and therefore shouldn't be considered valid as reason for permanently disenfranchising someone.

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