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    Imagining a different POTUS outcome

    After listening to George Romney sound knowledgeable last hour on the Military Channel, a recurring theme for me has been "what if" and where the direction of mankind would be now. 1) If Perot had not thrown the election to Clinton twice. 2) The debacle of 2000. 3) T. Roosevelt throwing the election to Wilson. 4) The deal of 1876. I'm sure there are intra-party decisions like G. Romney and G. Ford that have been profound.

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    Re: Imagining a different POTUS outcome

    Who is George Romney? Real question, I don't have a TV so I don't know who he is.



    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    After listening to George Romney sound knowledgeable last hour on the Military Channel, a recurring theme for me has been "what if" and where the direction of mankind would be now. 1) If Perot had not thrown the election to Clinton twice. 2) The debacle of 2000. 3) T. Roosevelt throwing the election to Wilson. 4) The deal of 1876. I'm sure there are intra-party decisions like G. Romney and G. Ford that have been profound.

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    Re: Imagining a different POTUS outcome

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    After listening to George Romney sound knowledgeable last hour on the Military Channel, a recurring theme for me has been "what if" and where the direction of mankind would be now. 1) If Perot had not thrown the election to Clinton twice. 2) The debacle of 2000. 3) T. Roosevelt throwing the election to Wilson. 4) The deal of 1876. I'm sure there are intra-party decisions like G. Romney and G. Ford that have been profound.
    Come on guy, Perot didn’t throw the election to Clinton, especially twice. All the exit polls show Perot drew relative even from both parties. Besides Clinton beat Bush by 6 million votes, 45-39. Perot drew a little less than 20 million votes which meant Bush would have had to win 13 million to Clinton taking only 7 million of those who voted for Perot, a whopping 65%. That wasn’t about to happen. You would be surprised at the amount of Perot’s support that was dissatisfied with Bush, chances are Clinton may have won even bigger without Perot in the race.

    The debacle of 2000, all Gore had to do was win his home state of Tennessee and he would have been president with 280 electoral votes. Florida would have become irrelevant. I have always said if you can’t win your home state, win where the people know you best, you have no business winning.

    In 1912, Taft was the sitting president which means TR would have had to stay out of it. Taft wasn’t about to resign or just serve one term and hand the reigns over to TR. But if TR had stayed out of it, odds say Taft probably would have defeated Wilson and I would guess we would not have entered WWII.

    As for the 1876 election, doing away with the compromise and let’s say Tilden won. I am sure he would have ordered all federal troops from the south as Hayes did. Removing those troops was the Democrats number one priority and Tilden being a Democrat, he would have done so.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Imagining a different POTUS outcome

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    After listening to George Romney sound knowledgeable last hour on the Military Channel, a recurring theme for me has been "what if" and where the direction of mankind would be now. 1) If Perot had not thrown the election to Clinton twice. 2) The debacle of 2000. 3) T. Roosevelt throwing the election to Wilson. 4) The deal of 1876. I'm sure there are intra-party decisions like G. Romney and G. Ford that have been profound.
    George Romney, Mitt Romney's father was a governor of Michigan and head of GM. He ran for president in 1964 and 1968. He lost to Goldwater in 64 and Nixon in 68. He was a moderate Republican.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    Who is George Romney? Real question, I don't have a TV so I don't know who he is.
    George Romney, Mitt Romney's father was a governor of Michigan and head of GM. He ran for president in 1964 and 1968. He lost to Goldwater in 64 and Nixon in 68. He was a moderate Republican.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Perot did not want to be President. If he had, he would not have "suspended his campaign" for no reason when he was building serious momentum. I am glad he did or else that whack job would have been President. Fortunately he was just in it to hear himself throw out zingers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    Who is George Romney? Real question, I don't have a TV so I don't know who he is.
    Jorge romney. Mitt romney's mexican father.
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    Re: Imagining a different POTUS outcome

    I'm so I old I should remember that and so old I don't remember anything. Thanks.


    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    George Romney, Mitt Romney's father was a governor of Michigan and head of GM. He ran for president in 1964 and 1968. He lost to Goldwater in 64 and Nixon in 68. He was a moderate Republican.

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    Re: Imagining a different POTUS outcome

    So the way you put it is a compliment, an insult or just drama?


    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    Jorge romney. Mitt romney's mexican father.

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    Perotista----I was pretty sure I'd touch a nerve with Perot. This week is crunch time. Final exam reviews, final chapter material, finish grading, enter all grades in computer----you know, that easy part-time job I have. Wife will be here Thursday. I'll
    Check in each day and see where you are. My thoughts are with you and your lost buddies and all of the lost souls from war.

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