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    Re: Imagining a different POTUS outcome

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Let me know where to sign up as I pass through Ohio in a few weeks. We could have a few shirley temples. Then head for a gun show in Indiana. Did you hit one while at the Indy 500?
    not much sense driving to Indy for gun shows

    1) Ohio prices are better

    2) Automatic knives cannot be sold in Indiana-one of the few things I buy at gun shows

    3) I cannot buy a handgun from an Indiana dealer or an Indiana resident

    All we did in Indy was visit with our friends-go to the race with them, went back to their home-hung out for a few hours-had some really good pizza. Jr and the wife sat in the hot tub they have on their deck as well

    sadly their youngest daughter had a bug and had to study for exams-I often work on her archery technique when we visit there



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    Re: Imagining a different POTUS outcome

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    You are confused again. The Automatic weapons ban =the Hughes Amendment-was a poison pill that was -in violation of congressional rules-imposed on a pro gun bill-the McClure Volker Firearm Owners Protection Act signed by Reagan because he was told the Hughes Amendment would be stripped out

    it wasn't

    the Clinton ban had nothing to do with "Automatics"
    What did the Clinton ban ban for only 10 years? As long as you're gonna call me a gun hater, I may as well play along.

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    Re: Imagining a different POTUS outcome

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    George Romney, Mitt Romney's father was a governor of Michigan and head of GM. He ran for president in 1964 and 1968. He lost to Goldwater in 64 and Nixon in 68. He was a moderate Republican.
    george romney was head of amc,not gm,btw amc was one of the most unnsuccesful car companies of its era,dueto poor planning and manegement.by the 60's most of amc's cars were frankensteins of chrysler engines,gm transmission,and ford rearends,or amc engines,chrysler transmissions,and chevy rearends,or just plain chrysler power and drivetrain but with goofy amc-ization that made it practically impossible to find decent parts for,even when they were fairly new.between having a frankenstein of the big 3's parts in random orders and trying to compete with the big 3 with their own tech,amc ran itself into the ground,only to eventually be bought by chrysler.

    hate to admit it,but george romney only wished he headed gm.
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    Re: Imagining a different POTUS outcome

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    What did the Clinton ban ban for only 10 years? As long as you're gonna call me a gun hater, I may as well play along.
    the sale of magazines that held more than 10 rounds that were made after the date the law went into effect (september 94 IIRC)

    semi autos with certain cosmetic features such as collapsing or folding stocks, flash hiders, shrouded barrels, pistol grips, bayonet lugs



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    Re: Imagining a different POTUS outcome

    Turtle Dude---exams are part of the life we choose. My students take them next week and I am preparing them starting tomorrow. I'm actually looking at Ohio next year for 2nd semester teaching. You take care.

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    Re: Imagining a different POTUS outcome

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    No, the AWB of 1994 that Clinton signed.
    Oh...you said "Automatic Weapons ban" but no automatic weapons were banned in the AWB of 1994. Automatic weapons were banned in 1986 under President Reagan, 8 years before the AWB you're talking about.

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Again, would Bush-41 have signed it?
    I believe he would have, yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Too bad the law grand-fathered all those guns before 1994, eh? This is the type of noise NRA loons on DP spew that gun-controllers think in their hatred of any gun measure.
    Imagine if you couldn't buy any cell phone made after 1994. Where would that leave you today? Doesn't the 1st Amendment protect your access to a modern Droid or iPhone, and doesn't the 4th Amendment protect you from the government taking copies of your pictures and contacts from your phone?

    It's true that you don't need 10 bullets to kill a dear, just as you don't need 4G to make a phone-call.
    Last edited by Jerry; 05-27-13 at 11:54 PM.

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    Re: Imagining a different POTUS outcome

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Oh...you said "Automatic Weapons ban" but no automatic weapons were banned in the AWB of 1994. Automatic weapons were banned in 1986 under President Reagan, 8 years before the AWB you're talking about.


    I believe he would have, yes.


    Imagine if you couldn't buy any cell phone made after 1994. Where would that leave you today? Doesn't the 1st Amendment protect your access to a modern Droid or iPhone, and doesn't the 4th Amendment protect you from the government taking copies of your pictures and contacts from your phone?

    It's true that you don't need 10 bullets to kill a dear, just as you don't need 4G to make a phone-call.
    Theses are good analogies Jerry. I simply do not have the time until the end of this semester to study enough to debate you 2nd amendment folks. Even then, you people are miles ahead of me. I believe it is incumbent on you folks to put forth something more preferable to you than Toomey/Manchin or state why we should stand pat on guns while everything guns does not stand pat.

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    Re: Imagining a different POTUS outcome

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Theses are good analogies Jerry. I simply do not have the time until the end of this semester to study enough to debate you 2nd amendment folks. Even then, you people are miles ahead of me. I believe it is incumbent on you folks to put forth something more preferable to you than Toomey/Manchin or state why we should stand pat on guns while everything guns does not stand pat.
    I don't know what "stand pat" means.

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