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Which of these multi-nationals has done the most harm to the world?

digsbe---post #23 as per post #19---you note there is a prescription drug abuse problem. Who made them? Are we back to the gun mentality? Is that why you used the word hate? Most pharms are difficult to use, let alone deal with the side-effects. You blame individuals abusing them. What about their misuse? Physicians prescribing dangerous drugs are in league with big Pharma. But it is still the individual's fault. As it is for soldiers coming home with PTSD. For WW II, it was Lithium. What did they give them to stay away from alcohol?
 
digsbe said:
Caffeinated drinks =/= abusing drugs. I don't know many kids who started their Xanax addiction because they saw commercials for Red Bull on TV. Addiction and drug abuse is nearly always the majority fault of the individual abuser. They are the ones taking the meds, the are the ones physician/pharmacy hopping to try and fill them and they are the ones who choose to reject recovery and live as an addict.
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Do you have any idea what today's teenagers are like in school? When they are allowed to bring in Mountain Dew and Amp into the school and we teachers must fight them to keep it out of class? Or to keep their hat off in a room with a flag? Or to put the text machine away? This is my 2nd semester of 8 since I retired in 2009 of full-time teaching. And yes I came back because of Sandy Hook. And no I don't appreciate being called a gun-hater upstairs and now another hater. Anybody with a different opinion from "you people" is a hater.
 
NIMBY said:
Do you have any idea what today's teenagers are like in school? When they are allowed to bring in Mountain Dew and Amp into the school and we teachers must fight them to keep it out of class? Or to keep their hat off in a room with a flag? Or to put the text machine away? This is my 2nd semester of 8 since I retired in 2009 of full-time teaching. And yes I came back because of Sandy Hook. And no I don't appreciate being called a gun-hater upstairs and now another hater. Anybody with a different opinion from "you people" is a hater.
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I never called anyone a hater and people that disagree with me are wrong, but not hateful unless of course their opinions stem from hate :shrug:

I do have an idea of what teens are like in school, I was a teen in school not too long ago. There is a cultural component behind drug addiction, but I don't think Mountain Dew or Amp are to blame. I think there is a cultural problem where students believe it's acceptable to abuse drugs, lack discipline, and live disrespectfully but ultimately this is a character flaw with the individual student. It may have been influenced by others, but ultimately it is the flaw of the individual who carries primary responsibility for their actions.
 
digsbe said:
I never called anyone a hater and people that disagree with me are wrong, but not hateful unless of course their opinions stem from hate :shrug:

I do have an idea of what teens are like in school, I was a teen in school not too long ago. There is a cultural component behind drug addiction, but I don't think Mountain Dew or Amp are to blame. I think there is a cultural problem where students believe it's acceptable to abuse drugs, lack discipline, and live disrespectfully but ultimately this is a character flaw with the individual student. It may have been influenced by others, but ultimately it is the flaw of the individual who carries primary responsibility for their actions.
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In post #19, you said, "I don't understand much of the hate people have for 'big pharma'". You used the word hate, just like Obama used the word terror. Have you been touched by the effects of this wicked multi-national NWO corporation? To leave every individual on a limb for blame without support is why suicide is skyrocketing. To think individual teenagers are to blame for doing something legal or that is legal in another state, or at a lower age in another state or Canada is .......
 
NIMBY said:
1) big Pharma
2) big oil
3) arms dealers
4) mega-farms and mega-ranches
5) Insurance companies
6) mega-banks skirting tax laws


Feel free to add your own.
For me, it it's big Pharma hands down. Not only have they trashed a new generation of teenagers, the addiction cuts across generations. Doctors, especially the foreign ones in this Country, are no more than pill dispensers. The VA/Tri-Care for Life has been financially raped.
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None of the above.

The entity that has done the most harm to the world is big, liberal government.
 
NIMBY said:
1) big Pharma
2) big oil
3) arms dealers
4) mega-farms and mega-ranches
5) Insurance companies
6) mega-banks skirting tax laws


Feel free to add your own.
For me, it it's big Pharma hands down. Not only have they trashed a new generation of teenagers, the addiction cuts across generations. Doctors, especially the foreign ones in this Country, are no more than pill dispensers. The VA/Tri-Care for Life has been financially raped.
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I'm going to say Law Firms. These punitive idiots scared physicians into being nothing more than "pill dispensers".
 
digsbe said:
I never called anyone a hater and people that disagree with me are wrong, but not hateful unless of course their opinions stem from hate :shrug:

I do have an idea of what teens are like in school, I was a teen in school not too long ago. There is a cultural component behind drug addiction, but I don't think Mountain Dew or Amp are to blame. I think there is a cultural problem where students believe it's acceptable to abuse drugs, lack discipline, and live disrespectfully but ultimately this is a character flaw with the individual student. It may have been influenced by others, but ultimately it is the flaw of the individual who carries primary responsibility for their actions.
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I'm not sure whether this argument is meaningful anyway. Big pharmaceuticals are bad mainly because they use their multi-national influence on governments to engineer unequal economic relationships and secondarily because they focus on developing treatment-driven medicine rather than cures even when the latter shows potential and are tax payer funded, based strictly on profitability.
 
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Corporations do what they do and it's government's job to control their ill effects on society. Asking which megacorp industry is the most harmful is like asking if tigers or wolves are more harmful. Both are predators, both injure & kill, and both have their niches, which are important. If these predators are doing harm then it's not their fault, it's government's fault and ultimately, our fault, not theirs. We make the rules under which they operate so who is there to blame but ourselves?


Personally, I think megacorps of all stripes are more harmful than smaller corps by their very nature - more power equals more potential for harm. I've always said a man with $1M to spend is more deadly than a man with a machine gun. If you have $10M to spend you're that much more of a threat.
 
Can we get back to Walmart and Ista being part of the multi-nationals creating the most harm?
 
In the long run, it'll be the mega farms/mega ranches that have done the most harm because of their overuse of antibiotics.
 
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