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    Re: Should employers be allowed to pay tipped employees less than minimum wage?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Reporting tips and the less than minimum wage are both sort of honor systems and we know how that works. I voted yes and think that as long as the playing field is level, each of us is well served by the system. There are always exceptions.
    Good luck with getting that past the NRA (National Restaurants Association) and state/city Restaurant Associations.
    The states where my company operates have RA's that aren't to keen on raising on wages in this economy,and a lot of waiters in high end restaurants aren't to keen on it either.

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    Re: Should employers be allowed to pay tipped employees less than minimum wage?

    Quote Originally Posted by pinqy View Post
    How would that be a pay cut? You can pay them minimum wage, or anything above the tip credit wage if you want, and that has nothing to do with tips. A few states don't allow tip credit and the wait staff receive at least min wage and still get tips.

    Or were you suggesting a no tip policy and pay min wage. (which makes no business sense).
    Why don't you ask my waiters?
    I offered, they rejected,end of story.

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    Re: Should employers be allowed to pay tipped employees less than minimum wage?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    I believe you. Earlier in the thread I talked about how, as much as servers complain about the day-to-day inconsistency of their tips, they always balk when higher wages / less tips is proposed. For all their complaining, they know they'd lose out in the long run.
    Thank you.We both know that experience trumps ideology. You've been in the business (a lot of these people here haven't) so you know the realities of owning and operating a restaurant.We both know it isn't easy,and you probably popped antacids like Tic-Tacs like I do.

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    Re: Should employers be allowed to pay tipped employees less than minimum wage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Verthaine View Post
    Thank you.We both know that experience trumps ideology. You've been in the business (a lot of these people here haven't) so you know the realities of owning and operating a restaurant.We both know it isn't easy,and you probably popped antacids like Tic-Tacs like I do.
    It can be exciting, and there were some aspects I was good with, but I really didn't like it in an overall sense. People don't seem to understand that it is a high-stress occupation. I'm more of an introvert and a office 9-to-5 kind of person, so what I do now better suits my personality.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Should employers be allowed to pay tipped employees less than minimum wage?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Ahh, let it flow, young one. The republican side of the force is strong in you, it must be nurtured.
    Nah that's still using the social democratic side.

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    Re: Should employers be allowed to pay tipped employees less than minimum wage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Verthaine View Post
    Why don't you ask my waiters?
    I offered, they rejected,end of story.
    Why didn't you ask your waiters? It makes no sense that min wage plus tips could be considered a pay cut from less than min wage plus tips. It would completely stupid and irrational to oppose it.

    Of course it doesn't make sense to offer them a pay raise when you didn't 't need to either
    Last edited by pinqy; 05-29-13 at 04:48 PM.

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    Re: Should employers be allowed to pay tipped employees less than minimum wage?

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    Nah that's still using the social democratic side.
    Sure it is, padawan. Repeat after me: "Do your God damn jobs".

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    Re: Should employers be allowed to pay tipped employees less than minimum wage?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Sure it is, padawan. Repeat after me: "Do your God damn jobs".
    Do your god damn jobs and pay your god damn taxes.

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    Re: Should employers be allowed to pay tipped employees less than minimum wage?

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    Do your god damn jobs and pay your god damn taxes.
    Very good. Next: "And don't go asking for any God damn handouts"

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    Re: Should employers be allowed to pay tipped employees less than minimum wage?

    Quote Originally Posted by pinqy View Post
    Why didn't you ask your waiters?
    I did,and they gave me their reason.It was good enough for me.
    Quote Originally Posted by pinqy View Post
    It makes no sense that min wage plus tips could be considered a pay cut from less than min wage plus tips. It would completely stupid and irrational to oppose it.
    It also makes no business sense to raise my dish prices and drive away loyal big spending longtime costumers.
    I tried that once,and it didn't work out,and that was when the economy was booming.
    Is our economy booming today?
    And you know what makes sense in the restaurant business how?
    How many years have you owned a restaurant?
    I've been in the business for over 30 years,20 of those years owning a restaurant.
    I think I know what I'm doing by now.
    Quote Originally Posted by pinqy View Post
    Of course it doesn't make sense to offer them a pay raise when you didn't 't need to either
    For the waiters to make what they make on average a week on tips,I'd have to raise their pay beyond minimum wage.
    If I raise my dish prices,people will tip less, )if they don't eat out somewhere less expensive)and minimum wage will not cover the money they are used to.
    Last edited by Verthaine; 05-29-13 at 04:55 PM.

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