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    Re: Should employers be allowed to pay tipped employees less than minimum wage?

    Quote Originally Posted by 0bserver92 View Post
    it's about people doing their god damn job.
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    Re: Should employers be allowed to pay tipped employees less than minimum wage?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Society doesn't dictate anything. If you get crappy service? You don't even leave a tip. If all you did was write down an order, deliver it to the kitchen and pick up the food, I'm sure you don't think it's difficult. But that is hardly what waitstaff does of a shift.

    Waiters and waitresses are the faces of any restaurant. They are the "actors in a play." Their job is to make their customers' dining experiences pleasant one, handle complaints and turn a crabby customer into a friend, to anticipate their needs, to sell the daily specials thereby helping their employer use up leftovers and specially-priced product, help the restaurant increase the check amount through careful attention to drink refills and selling desserts. Keep water glasses full. Coffee cups. They double-check the kitchen staff to make sure orders are correct and cooked to customer request, and one helluva lot more. With a smile and a personality that assures customer retention and a terrific dining experience for every one of their guests.

    In between, before or after they're doing all that? They're either bussing the tables themselves or making sure their bus staff is prompt and thorough in doing so, refilling condiments on tables, making sure seats and tables are clean, cleaning their service stations and a variety of other cleaning tasks as assigned by their employers.

    So. If that's "all you did" in college when you worked as waitstaff in a restaurant? You didn't learn a thing.
    When do we get to the hard stuff?

    I know it's not socially polite to point it out but there's a reason why these jobs are staffed by high school drop outs.

    Go to medical school then tell me how hard it is to keep a glass of water full.

    In all seriousness, what would you say is the hardest part in keeping that glass of water full?

    For me it was always remembering to pour the water it into the glass and not to throw it against the wall.

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    Re: Should employers be allowed to pay tipped employees less than minimum wage?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Maybe the Chicago area has more potential employees to choose from so has better employees. I don't know. But even at $20 breakfast family-type restaurants, we experience excellent service. Many of them bus their own tables. Not all. But they certainly do their own station clean-up. *shrug*

    We go to all kinds of restaurants....from a $35 dinner to a $200 dinner (for two). We get excellent service; and they're doing exactly the kinds of things I wrote about. Maybe you need to upscale your choices.
    You buying?

    For all intents and purposes, they could rename the "dollar menu" the "Gipper menu".

    I'm not always like that though. Once in a while, I'll take a date out to dinner for unlimited soup, salad, and breadsticks for $5.95. This is what we call "splurging".

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    Re: Should employers be allowed to pay tipped employees less than minimum wage?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Agree with Gipper that tipping has become an entitlement mentality.
    And I'm never reluctant to provide the cure for that.
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    Re: Should employers be allowed to pay tipped employees less than minimum wage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dapper Andy View Post
    You can't imagine how many times I threw the pitcher against the wall before someone said I'm supposed to pour the water into a glass.
    I'm not surprised.
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    Re: Should employers be allowed to pay tipped employees less than minimum wage?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    And I'm never reluctant to provide the cure for that.
    I hope you don't mean a cure for agreeing with Gipper.

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    Re: Should employers be allowed to pay tipped employees less than minimum wage?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    You buying?

    For all intents and purposes, they could rename the "dollar menu" the "Gipper menu".

    I'm not always like that though. Once in a while, I'll take a date out to dinner for unlimited soup, salad, and breadsticks for $5.95. This is what we call "splurging".


    (I remember you on a thread or two I posted mentioning your "economical ways." Now I understand. !!!
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    Re: Should employers be allowed to pay tipped employees less than minimum wage?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Yes, they should be allowed to pay less than minimum wage in tip jobs. Anyone who's ever stayed at a resort where tips are included? Or where they add 15% onto the checks for dinner? Knows that tips are the only things that motivate excellent service.
    I don't buy that. Many people work without being tipped, and give excellent service. And it doesn't mean tips will stop. Some will still tip.

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    Re: Should employers be allowed to pay tipped employees less than minimum wage?

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post


    (I remember you on a thread or two I posted mentioning your "economical ways." Now I understand. !!!
    Well, is soup, salad, and breadsticks not a delicious, well-rounded, and even potentially healthy meal (depending on how much salad/breadsticks you eat, and the type of soup)? Can't beat that with a stick.

    I pride myself on only dating low-maintenance women...and nothing said "high-maintenance" like steak and lobster - especially on a first date.

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    Re: Should employers be allowed to pay tipped employees less than minimum wage?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Ahh, let it flow, young one. The republican side of the force is strong in you, it must be nurtured.
    This made me laugh.
    If you claim sexual harassment to be wrong, yet you defend anyone on your side for any reason,
    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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