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Thread: Should a convicted violent felon be allowed to own guns after release from prison?

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    Re: Should a convicted violent felon be allowed to own guns after release from prison

    Not enough choices. depends on the felony and the record



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    Re: Should a convicted violent felon be allowed to own guns after release from prison

    That is an opinion without fact.


    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    Not at all. Our costs would drop dramatically, because we'd have far fewer people in prison.

    It's not a utopian dream. It is the practice of many different countries for decades with quite a bit of success. America, once again, is behind the curve, and therefore maintains the highest prison population in the developed world. And we spend more to maintain it than we do on education.

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    Re: Should a convicted violent felon be allowed to own guns after release from prison

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    That is an opinion without fact.
    No, it isn't. You just don't really care about the facts.

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    Re: Should a convicted violent felon be allowed to own guns after release from prison

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Not enough choices. depends on the felony and the record
    I forgot to set my airplane tray in its upright and locked position, which is in fact a felony. Can I has the means to defend myself?
    Haymarket's "support" of the 2nd Amendment, a right he believes we never had.
    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    no. You cannot lose rights you do not have in the first place. There is no such thing as the right to have any weapon of your choice regardless of any other consideration. It simply does not exist.

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    Re: Should a convicted violent felon be allowed to own guns after release from prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    I forgot to set my airplane tray in its upright and locked position, which is in fact a felony. Can I has the means to defend myself?
    I find that hard to believe that is a felony



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    Re: Should a convicted violent felon be allowed to own guns after release from prison

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I find that hard to believe that is a felony
    I find it hard to believe urinating outdoors near a school makes you a registered sex offender, but it does.
    Haymarket's "support" of the 2nd Amendment, a right he believes we never had.
    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    no. You cannot lose rights you do not have in the first place. There is no such thing as the right to have any weapon of your choice regardless of any other consideration. It simply does not exist.

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    Re: Should a convicted violent felon be allowed to own guns after release from prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    I forgot to set my airplane tray in its upright and locked position, which is in fact a felony. Can I has the means to defend myself?
    Not until you master subject-verb agreement.
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    Re: Should a convicted violent felon be allowed to own guns after release from prison

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    I find it hard to believe urinating outdoors near a school makes you a registered sex offender, but it does.
    that's not a felony though

    and in some cases that is true

    the difference is is how long the registration lasts



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    Re: Should a convicted violent felon be allowed to own guns after release from prison

    It is really sad when someone thinks their opinion is factual and can't back it up. You present a hypothetical not a reality, but I understand some people live in the hypothetical realities - most of them are called progressives.


    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    No, it isn't. You just don't really care about the facts.

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    Re: Should a convicted violent felon be allowed to own guns after release from prison

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    It is really sad when someone thinks their opinion is factual and can't back it up. You present a hypothetical not a reality, but I understand some people live in the hypothetical realities - most of them are called progressives.
    Oh, I can, it's just that someone who denies things that are so well-known as to be baseline knowledge aren't usually worth it.

    But for any lurkers, I'll start with some basic stuff that didn't take up too much of my time.

    "We want to build them up, give them confidence through education and work and have them leave as better people." Countries track recidivism rates differently, but even an imperfect comparison suggests the Norwegian model works. Within two years of their release, 20% of Norway's prisoners end up back in jail. In the U.K. and the U.S., the figure hovers between 50% and 60%. Of course, a low level of criminality gives Norway a massive advantage. Its prison roll lists a mere 3,300, or 69 per 100,000 people, compared with 2.3 million in the U.S., or 753 per 100,000 — the highest rate in the world.
    Norway's Halden Fengsel Prison: Humane Rehab for Inmates - TIME

    The study indicates that even small improvements in medical care could significantly reduce recidivism. “What happens inside jails and prisons does not stay inside jails and prisons,” the commission concludes, since 95% of inmates are eventually released back into society, ill-equipped to lead productive lives. Given the dramatic rise in incarceration over the past decade, public safety is threatened unless the corrections system does in fact “correct” rather than simply punish.
    U.S. Prisons Overcrowded and Violent, Recidivism High | Infoplease.com

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