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    Re: Impeachable Offense

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Is denying Americans the right to life without due process an impeachable offense?
    Not necessarily. If you are an imminent threat to someone else then due process goes out the window.

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    Re: Impeachable Offense

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Not necessarily. If you are an imminent threat to someone else then due process goes out the window.
    How do we define imminent? I see this whole assassination without due process taking us down a very, very dark road. I said it back in 2009 and I'll say it again. Obama is Bush's 3rd and now 4th term. Cheney would be salivating at death from above without due process.
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    Re: Impeachable Offense

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    Is denying Americans the right to life without due process an impeachable offense?
    We don't have a right to life per se.
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    Re: Impeachable Offense

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    How do we define imminent? I see this whole assassination without due process taking us down a very, very dark road. I said it back in 2009 and I'll say it again. Obama is Bush's 3rd and now 4th term. Cheney would be salivating at death from above without due process.
    How can we provide due process to someone who cannot be captured?

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    Re: Impeachable Offense

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    We don't have a right to life per se.
    That is true. DOI has no legal bearing, but my point is that the government is executing citizens without trial.
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    Re: Impeachable Offense

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    How can we provide due process to someone who cannot be captured?
    That's a damn good question, but I don't see how that alone is a reason to effectively ignore COTUS.
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    Re: Impeachable Offense

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    That is true. DOI has no legal bearing, but my point is that the government is executing citizens without trial.
    (You looked that up, didn't you! I had to do the same. Ha! "Life, Liberty and all that.)

    To have it out in the open is certainly precedent. I'm not sure it's ever been admitted to before. But I'm sure it's been done.

    To answer your question, there are times when I think they do have that right. There are times when American citizens trump their citizenship by becoming enemy combatants.
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    Re: Impeachable Offense

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    How do we define imminent? I see this whole assassination without due process taking us down a very, very dark road. I said it back in 2009 and I'll say it again. Obama is Bush's 3rd and now 4th term. Cheney would be salivating at death from above without due process.
    Bush and Cheney had their opportunity and didn't exercise it much at all so that part of your comment is utter hogwash.

    As far as determining imminence you take the situation at hand, look at the facts and circumstances then decide. It's not an exact science but it's not brain surgery either.

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    Re: Impeachable Offense

    They were very slick in how they approached this subject of drone killing citizen or not outside the US as enemy combatant. Declaring a War on Terrorists and claiming that any member of a suspected terrorist group is subject to internment or bombing. It's unprecedented and IMO will not go down in history as an heroic venture.
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    Re: Impeachable Offense

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    That is true. DOI has no legal bearing, but my point is that the government is executing citizens without trial.
    An impeachable offense is anything that the Congress says it is. That is the only legal aspect to it. No judicial review in Presidential impeachments. The House issues the articles, the senate hears the case prosecuted by the sponsors in the House and that is that.

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