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    Is it a good thing to be oblivious of racial stereotypes?

    I was reading through this thread: http://www.debatepolitics.com/off-to...-intended.html and it occurred to me that many people are actually oblivious to some racial stereotypes which exist in this country and are often used to disparage others.

    I was then curious as to whether or not people feel that being oblivious to these racial stereotypes is a good thing or a bad thing.

    On one hand, a person who is truly oblivious to such stereotypes has probably not directly exposed to much racism in their lives. Which is good. On the other hand, they might be oblivious to the racism because they have not have been exposed to it because they have not had much exposure to people who belong to the stereotyped groups, which is a bad thing.

    There's also the possibility that they aren't really oblivious to the stereotypes, but are simply doing the poor victimized white person routine to pretend that the poor victimized white person cannot say anything anymore without being accused of racism".

    I'm leaning toward the idea that the obliviousness is feigned, because it is mind-boggling to me that someone can live and interact with other people in our society without ever being exposed to the most common racial stereotypes that exist in our society. I'd be just as shocked if a black person said "Wait, white people being bad dancers is a racial stereotype?!?!?!?!" Unless someone is living under a rock, in a cave, hidden beneath the unabombers shack, I would assume they've encountered some of the most common stereotypes that exist in our society.

    Examples: White people can't dance, black people eat fried chicken, asian women can't drive, Italian men are mama's boys, Irish people drink, Polish people are stupid, WASPS have old money, Mexicans mow lawns etc. etc.

    So the poll question is: Is it a good thing or a bad thing to be oblivious to the very real stereotypes which exist in the world?
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    Re: Is it a good thing to be oblivious of racial stereotypes?

    Sorry, the poll question got ****ed up in the poll itself.
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    Re: Is it a good thing to be oblivious of racial stereotypes?

    Just because someone doesn't know that the association of certain stereotypes does not mean that they are unaware of racism/prejudice etc. (and the driving thing isn't just confined to Asian women. I cannot think of ever being in a car with a female driver where they didn't scare the hell out me at some point......)

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    Re: Is it a good thing to be oblivious of racial stereotypes?

    I actually side with you...I think it's hard to be oblivious when you're talking about pretty widely held stereotypes. Not only do you not associate with racist people but you don't watch television, you don't like comedies since they are centered on those stereotypes...you really have to be living in a bubble. Now if you're Amish or an Innuit it's a bit more believable.
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    Re: Is it a good thing to be oblivious of racial stereotypes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Examples: White people can't dance, .
    Oh God, the mental image.

    But to answer your question no. Not necessarily so you don't accidentally offend someone, but also because I think you should know as much as you can about the people of your nation.
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    Re: Is it a good thing to be oblivious of racial stereotypes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Just because someone doesn't know that the association of certain stereotypes does not mean that they are unaware of racism/prejudice etc.
    I'm not sure how someone who is truly aware of racism and prejudice could fail to be exposed to such stereotypes, though. It seems to me like their "awareness" of such things would have to be akin to most people's "awareness" of quantum mechanics. They might understand that it exists, but they wouldn't be able to recognize anything about it or talk about it in a meaningful way.
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    Re: Is it a good thing to be oblivious of racial stereotypes?

    BTW, the poll should have been "Good, Bad, Other" not "yes, no, other".

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    Re: Is it a good thing to be oblivious of racial stereotypes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    BTW, the poll should have been "Good, Bad, Other" not "yes, no, other".

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    Re: Is it a good thing to be oblivious of racial stereotypes?

    It's bad to be oblivious. Just because it's bad to not know what would offend someone.


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    Re: Is it a good thing to be oblivious of racial stereotypes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    On one hand, a person who is truly oblivious to such stereotypes has probably not directly exposed to much racism in their lives. Which is good. On the other hand, they might be oblivious to the racism because they have not have been exposed to it because they have not had much exposure to people who belong to the stereotyped groups, which is a bad thing.

    There's also the possibility that they aren't really oblivious to the stereotypes, but are simply doing the poor victimized white person routine to pretend that the poor victimized white person cannot say anything anymore without being accused of racism".
    The above is what came to my mind, so I had to vote "other" meaning "I don't know. It depends on the person"

    However, I think the ignorance is often feigned, and for the reason you describe
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