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    Re: Is it a good thing to be oblivious of racial stereotypes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Verthaine View Post
    You should see the hatred I get from racist black women for being married to a white woman.
    serious question: do you not find black women attractive or did it just kinda work out that way? Only asking because my 17 y/o has been dating for a little over a year and not once has he gone out with a black girl. He seems to prefer either pasty white redheads or hispanics. I asked him why he never dates black girls and his reason was "I'd never date a black girl. They have way too much attitude"
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    Re: Is it a good thing to be oblivious of racial stereotypes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Example of a stereotype based on the hasty generalization fallacy: Polish people are stupid.
    I have never even heard of that stereotype. I guess I don't live in a region of the US with a large polish population.

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    Re: Is it a good thing to be oblivious of racial stereotypes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Knowledge=power View Post
    I have never even heard of that stereotype. I guess I don't live in a region of the US with a large polish population.
    You've never heard a Polish joke? I guess in Chicago it's so normal I assumed everyone was aware of them. What region are you from?
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    Re: Is it a good thing to be oblivious of racial stereotypes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    You've never heard a Polish joke? I guess in Chicago it's so normal I assumed everyone was aware of them. What region are you from?
    I've been to 40 states, think I've heard a polish joke in every one of them. Heck, even the Polish folks I've known tell em. However, haven't heard one in the last decade or so as I recall. Maybe they're finally dying out.

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    Re: Is it a good thing to be oblivious of racial stereotypes?

    OOOHhhh get him away from the redheads...wait, is that a stereotype?
    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    serious question: do you not find black women attractive or did it just kinda work out that way? Only asking because my 17 y/o has been dating for a little over a year and not once has he gone out with a black girl. He seems to prefer either pasty white redheads or hispanics. I asked him why he never dates black girls and his reason was "I'd never date a black girl. They have way too much attitude"
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    Re: Is it a good thing to be oblivious of racial stereotypes?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Is it a good thing or a bad thing to be oblivious to the very real stereotypes which exist in the world?
    Like most things, the goodness or badness of it is relative. In other words, "it depends."

    Relative to the oblivious person's perception of the world, such obliviousness is probably good because it shelters the oblivious person from a difficult part of the world.

    Relative to the oblivious person's inevitable interaction with people who are aware of the stereotype, it's probably bad because that person is probably going end up getting their feelings hurt when someone tells them how ignorant they are.

    Relative to those who are harmed by stereotypes, it's could be good or bad. It could be good in the sense that someone who doesn't even know about certain stereotypes won't intentionally perpetuate them. On the other hand, it could be bad because that same oblivious person could be complicit in the perpetuation of such stereotypes in their ignorance.

    In general, however, I think people ought to be aware of what's happening around them. As a person thing, I find it nearly intolerable to deal with people who aren't ignorant of things that are incredibly pervasive.

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    Re: Is it a good thing to be oblivious of racial stereotypes?

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    I've been to 40 states, think I've heard a polish joke in every one of them. Heck, even the Polish folks I've known tell em. However, haven't heard one in the last decade or so as I recall. Maybe they're finally dying out.
    I still hear them in Chicago often enough, but probably less than I used to.
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    Re: Is it a good thing to be oblivious of racial stereotypes?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    serious question: do you not find black women attractive or did it just kinda work out that way? Only asking because my 17 y/o has been dating for a little over a year and not once has he gone out with a black girl. He seems to prefer either pasty white redheads or hispanics. I asked him why he never dates black girls and his reason was "I'd never date a black girl. They have way too much attitude"
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    Re: Is it a good thing to be oblivious of racial stereotypes?

    No, it's not good. I was in a conversation with a black guy at work up in Michigan, and I said the word "boy" to him (not in a racist fashion, because I wasn't even aware that "boy" wasn't allowed to say). It nearly ended in a fistfight.

    Also, racist jokes aren't nearly as funny if you don't know the stereotypes.

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    Re: Is it a good thing to be oblivious of racial stereotypes?

    To answer your question, I think most of the time people who don't know a particular thing is viewed as a negative racial stereotype, if they're of adult age, are either doing so based on feigned ignorance or essentially CHOSEN ignorance (IE they've heard it before but just never process it in such a way that they'll recall it quickly).

    I think that's the case with the vast majority of such stereotypes, especially the more "common ones". That said, I say "majority", because I do think sometimes you may just not realize. For example...

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    See, now that would be an example that I could imagine someone being oblivious too, since it is more about historical understanding than it is about extant stereotypes.
    ...I had not even THOUGHT about the notion that "cotton picken" was actually a reference to slavery and blacks until this thread. Now I feel like I just got smacked with the "OF COURSE IT IS, STUPID" stick.

    It's similar to when I first heard that "Gypped" was a slur referencing gypsies.

    I do understand that there's a great difference between believing all racial stereotypes are inherently bad or shouldn't be said or talked about or are true/untrue or whatever other deflection people are using to try and refocus the topic....and simply answering whether or not people feign the knowledge of most of said stereotypes.

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