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Your voting record: 2008 and 2012

Your presidential vote, 2008 and 2012


  • Total voters
    60
1996 Dole
2000 Bush
2004 Kerry
2008 Obama
2012 Jill Stein (Green Party)

I have just been becoming more and more liberal, and more and more disenchanted with our two party system in general. I doubt I will ever vote Democrat again in a Presidential election unless I happen to be living in a swing state, and even then I would be reluctant.
 
1988 Ron Paul
1992 Bush (can't stand Bill Clinton, viscerally)
1996 Dole (actually flipped a coin between Dole and Harry Brown - see "1992")
2000 Voted for my choice in every other category - and left "President/Vice President" blank. How very prescient of me!
2004 Write-in: Clint Eastwood
2008 McCain (with huge reluctance; considered voting for Obama - what an idiot)
2012 Gary Johnson (the first time in my American life when I actually felt comfortable with my presidential vote - even knowing perfectly well how futile it is)
 
In the 2008 and 2012 presidential election, who did you vote for, if applicable, in the general election?

I did not vote for president in 2008 and 2012.I did vote in other races and ballot issues. After Bush I refuse to vote for another rino.
 
Um, perhaps you would you like to show us Obama campaign literature or other documentation that says he was (is) anti-gun.

remind me how that worked out. HE called for bans while campaigning
 
2008 - Chuck Baldwin of The Constitution Party.
2012 - I wrote in my own name on the ballot.
 
You think the rich don't want to pay more because of how it might affect others? Seriously?

you only encourage more takers when so many people want more and don't have to pay for it
 
2004-Bush
2008- Obama
2012- Obama. Wasn't that excited, but if I didn't I was just ultimately voting against my own interest.
 
remind me how that worked out. HE called for bans while campaigning

Sorry, he pretty much avoided the gun issue. When and where did he call for bans? You continually state things as fact and rarely back up your statements. Show me a link or back off such statements.
 
Sure. Like the EPA. Or the FDA.

Because who needs an environment or safe drugs and food when you can use dollar bills for both face masks, nutrition and winter heat.

You believe in fairy tales, that's the difference between you and me. You believe the government is "protecting" you from the corporations, rather than working directly for them.
 
No, my big problem is an understanding of history and economics and a concern for the sustainability of his country arguing with people who have one dimensional ideas of how it all works.

Conservatives have the best bumper stickers, but not much behind them.

Anyone who subscribes to a left/right worldview is uninformed.
 
you only encourage more takers when so many people want more and don't have to pay for it

I understand that is your point of view.

It is, however, irrelevant to my point that great wealth has been used to buy policy that increases wealth concentration and that greater wealth is being used to continue pushing for more.

I know it is a conservative meme that we have become a nation of takers, but let me ask you, back in the 40's, 50's, and 60's, when the top tax rates were in the 90 percent range, were we a nation of takers?

I submit that the data conservatives use ignores the fact that because conservative policies have been effective, Americans at the very top have MUCH more and the bottom 90% has less, so when you look at tax revenue distribution it looks like the top has a larger burden, but since we know, empirically that tax rates at the top are historically low, something else must be at work, and that something is wealth and income concentration.

If you have policies that depress income for the bottom 90%, and you have social programs that kick in for people at certain poverty level incomes, it is ironic that people who support the wage depressing policies would complain about the wage depressed folks when their wages are depressed to poverty levels such that they are eligible for the social programs. And worse, blame the social programs for their economic circumstances.

When I look around, I see so many full grown, middle aged adults working for less than I earned when I was a part time worker in college 30 years ago. I would suggest that you reconsider your position of blaming Americans and think about who made the policies that have brought us here. It's not necessarily an R v D problem, Democrats have been bought by the same unlimited lobbyists that bought Republicans, the biggest difference is that Republicans were ideologically inclined to support these policies before the cash started pouring in.
 
Anyone who subscribes to a left/right worldview is uninformed.

That was rude.

One doesn't need to subscribe to a right/left worldview to recognize the choices that Americans are limited to.

Anyone who mistakenly defines another person's worldview based on a few words in a post is a pompous narcissist.
 
You believe in fairy tales, that's the difference between you and me. You believe the government is "protecting" you from the corporations, rather than working directly for them.

I believe you are correct as to who is protecting whom, but I also believe this is a phenomenon that has come to define our system in the last 30 years, roughly coincidental with the decision that money is speech and the opening of the legal bribery scheme that resides on K Street in DC.
 
I believe you are correct as to who is protecting whom, but I also believe this is a phenomenon that has come to define our system in the last 30 years, roughly coincidental with the decision that money is speech and the opening of the legal bribery scheme that resides on K Street in DC.

LOL, Washington has been owned by Wall Street long before that. Look at the creation of the federal reserve as an example. By big business, for big business.
 
That was rude.

One doesn't need to subscribe to a right/left worldview to recognize the choices that Americans are limited to.

Anyone who mistakenly defines another person's worldview based on a few words in a post is a pompous narcissist.

The statement stands, if you subscribe to a left/right worldview then you are ignorant. If not, then it doesn't apply to you.
 
2008: Ron Paul in the primaries; McCain in General
2012: Herman Cain in straw poll; Ron Paul in primary; Gary Johnson in General
 
I'll go further...

1980 Reagan
1984 Reagan
1988 Bush
1992 Bush
1996 Dole
2000 Gore
2004 Kerry
2008 Obama
2012 Obama

I didn't leave the GOP, they left me

Since I turned 21 in 1964, I'll top you.

1964 Goldwater
1968 Nixon
1972 Nixon
1976 Carter
1980 Carter
1984 Reagan
1988 Bush Sr.
1992 Perot
1996 Perot
2000 Browne
2004 Badnarik
2008 McCain
2012 Johnson
 
Wasn't of voting age yet; however, if I could have voted, it would surely have been for a 3rd party, whether on the ballot or not.
 
I'll go further...

1980 Reagan
1984 Reagan
1988 Bush
1992 Bush
1996 Dole
2000 Gore
2004 Kerry
2008 Obama
2012 Obama

I didn't leave the GOP, they left me

What was the trauma in your life that caused you to go insane in 2000? :2razz:
 
2008: Barack Obama
2012: Gary Johnson

My hypothetical voting record since 1896 (the first year I consider to be a 'modern' Presidential election) would have looked something like this. The colors signifying the parties are used as they are on Dave Leip's Atlas forum; red represents the Democrats, blue the Republicans and green an independent:

1896: William McKinley
1900: William McKinley
1904: Theodore Roosevelt
1908: William Howard Taft
1912: Theodore Roosevelt
1916: Charles Evans Hughes
1920: Warren Harding
1924: Robert LaFollette
1928: Al Smith
1932: Franklin Delano Roosevelt
1936: Alf Landon
1940: Wendell Willkie
1944: Franklin Delano Roosevelt
1948: Thomas Dewey
1952: Adlai Stevenson (Republican Primaries: Robert Taft)
1956: Adlai Stevenson
1960: John Fitzgerald Kennedy
1964: Barry Goldwater
1968: ABSTAIN
1972: George McGovern
1976: Gerald Ford
1980: Jimmy Carter
1984: ABSTAIN
1988: Ron Paul
1992: George Herbert Walker Bush (Democratic Primaries: Jerry Brown)
1996: Bill Clinton
2000: Harry Browne
2004: John Kerry
2008: Barack Obama
2012: Gary Johnson

I'd have been a partisan Republican from the end of the Civil War until the northern, urban wing of the Democratic Party became ascendant around the mid-1920s. Then I'd alternate between the mainstream parties and pro-liberty third-party movements, with the GOP becoming increasingly less appealing to me as time went on.

I would never vote for a ticket with Nixon or Reagan on it, both because I find both men detestable and because I quite happen to like most of their opponents (Stevenson, Kennedy, McGovern, and Gerald Ford).
 
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Individual candidates I would vote FOR since 1896, in the sense I genuinely favored them to become President:

William McKinley
Theodore Roosevelt
William Howard Taft
Warren Harding
Gerald Ford

Theodore Roosevelt
Robert LaFollette
Gary Johnson

Al Smith
Adlai Stevenson
John Fitzgerald Kennedy
George McGovern
Barack Obama


Individual candidates I would have voted AGAINST since 1896, in the sense I would have opposed their Presidencies under any imaginable circumstances:

Herbert Hoover
Richard Nixon
Ronald Reagan
George Walker Bush
John McCain
Mitt Romney

William Jennings Bryan
Thomas Woodrow Wilson
Lyndon Baines Johnson
 
Obama to my everlasting shame in 08 and Gary Johnson in 12.

First time for both Democratic and Libertarian that I voted those parties in a National election

Though my vote for Obama was more a vote against McCain.

GJ was for GJ
 
I have NEVER voted for a stinking republican or a stinking democrat in any presidential election since I started voting in the early 80's.

They are all TRASH - and none have been worthy of my vote.
 
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